SimAppPro Simlogic.Exe

I use Flightsim Hardware from a company called WinWing and Norton is blocking Simlogic.exe and I am unable to use my hardware ! I have placed in exceptions SimAppPro and Norton is still querying the app.

Currently I have uninstalled Norton which I’m unhappy about after recently renewing my subscription

Anybody experiencing this ? Any Solutions ? I’m baffled because Winwing is a big company and expanding ! So why is Norton blocking a safe reliable app ?

I’ve only recently experienced this problem after Windows upgraded my pc to Windows 11

Thanks

Lee

Were Norton 360 still installed. You might have shared related Security History.
Had you included Simlogic.exe with Scans and Antivirus exclusions.
Maybe, Norton detected a vulnerable kernel driver which queried the app.
Maybe, SimAppPro is new/er and Norton needs to gather more telemetry.
Maybe, Norton detected/objected to an unsigned .tmp file.

https://us.winwingsim.com/view/simapppro.html

Maybe, I can reproduce as you report…if I do not hit a paywall.
Is this your SimAppPro?
https://us.winwingsim.com/view/simapppro.html

fwiw ~ as test:


Did you want install for Anyone (all users)?


Anyone = Program Files

Only for = AppData

fwiw ~ as test: Anyone

appears Norton is chewing on SimLogic.exe.

appears Download Intelligence completed chewing on SimLogic.exe.

appears rules were created and SimLogic.exe was Allowed…while Unproven
for example:

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Caveat: I’m not familiar with SimAppPro nor have Login credentials

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appears on subsequent launch → Norton is still chewing


5614cb9cd07b/2025-08-15T12:09:13.071Z


5e3aaed1244e/2025-08-15T12:09:15.903Z


Details
Threat name: IDP.ALEXA.54
Threat type: Miscellaneous - This is an app that you may have unknowingly installed and that may harm your computer performance.
Status: Threat detected
Detected by: Behavioral Protection
On PC from: Unknown
Last Used: Unknown
Startup Item: No
Unknown
It is unknown how many users in the Norton Community have used this file.
Unknown
The file release is currently unknown
High
The file risk is high.
Activity
Path | Type | Status
C:\USERS\user\APPDATA\LOCAL\TEMP\30AC2KL9MYQ6ZLRFZCBFIHPP59J\SIMLOGIC.EXE | File | Deleted
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\2b4fc714-1a8d-4daa-9914-67aaf0927b7b.tmp.node | File | Deleted



5e3aaed1244e/2025-08-15T12:19:28.600Z

Threat cannot be removed
Sorry, SimLogic.exe is being stubborn, It refuses to go into your
Quarantine.

Caveat: I’m not familiar with SimAppPro nor have Login credentials

fwiw ~ at this point.
I’ll imagine Norton needs to clear Unproven. I’ll imagine user needs to submit False Negative report/s.
I’ll imagine Norton needs more telemetry.

Caveat: I’m not SimAppPro familiar

fwiw ~ trying to make False Negative submission…no joy at this time.


Maybe, sample is unknown at VirusTotal.
Maybe, Norton submission process remains hinky.

stay tuned
appears SimAppPro Setup sample is known at VirusTotal here
So, we’ll try submission/s again

stay tuned

Well, appears Norton False Negative submission process remains hinky = times out.


1994

appears SimAppPro is known at VirusTotal here

I’ve experienced similar before…and needed to open support ticket.
Oh bother…

@Gayathri_R

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Edit:

trying Setup sample again


trying Setup submission again from Norton Private Browser with Shields and Extensions = off


Edit:
Send for analysis


fwiw ~
maybe, I’ll try adding Exclusions
maybe, I’ll try False Negative submission/s again.

Edit: fresh Setup sample + Edge → Reset to Default w Extensions off

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Unproven - released 16 days ago



Details
Developers: Unknown
Version: 1.16.57
Identified: 8/15/25,
Last Used: 8/15/25,
Startup Item: No
Few users
Hundreds of users in the Norton Community have used this file.
Mature
This file was released 16 days ago.
Unproven
There is not enough information about this file to recommend it.
Origin
Downloaded from: https://download.wwsimstore.com/download/SimAppPro/SimAppPro%20Setup%201.16.57.exe

File: SimAppPro Setup 1.16.57 (1).exe
File size: 286 MB (300,155,089 bytes)
MD5 checksum: 2FE09C9AF9C52CBE99E2C18EE0A46236
SHA1 checksum: 98D96AEBA36558D7811611D3958CED4F09A7988A
SHA256 checksum: C34B6ACC9EDF9C63810E54C036CF560CED9E8C5285194A0E1A9D9AEA126AB97F
Date/Time: 8/15/2025

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Chat session: at this time → Case ID nnnnnnnn

Chat support will escalate “this issue” along with my other open issues against same Case ID nnnnnnnn

Norton creates confusion by applying same Case ID against more than one issue.
I’ve lost track “open issues” against Case ID nnnnnnnn

Hopefully, once Norton gathers more telemetry. Norton will update database.

fwiw ~ at this time: Setup over-install

fwiw ~ as test:




fwiw ~ as test: with Exclusions




related Temp files

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fwiw ~ that’s about as far as I can go with Antivirus and Scans → Exclusions.

I’m not familiar. I do not have Login credentials

as always, your mileage may vary

Edit:
Hello @MrLee_Rose

  • just noticed → SimAppPro files are not signed.

I had presumed us.winwingsim.com (big company and expanding) files were signed

Wow ! Thanks for your very kind help into my problem !

What next ?

Kind Regards

Lee

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fwiw ~ I’m monitoring and waiting to hear back from my False Negative submission here &or from my Norton support Case ID nnnnnnnn here.

Note: at this time…
SimAppPro Setup → File Insight = Unproven
SimAppPro → File Insight = Unproven

I’m hoping once Norton clears Unproven rating…then Norton will not object to SimAppPro install/installed.
Note: SimAppPro files may need to be (should be) signed.

Note: at this time v24+ False Negative submission remains stubborn



@Gayathri_R , @MJay

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Note: at this time v22 False Negative submission remains stubborn

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Note: at this time v24+ False Negative submission remains stubborn

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@Gayathri_R , @MJay
Chat support advised me to use False Negative for Unproven.
How may I submit False Negative for Unproven?




Note: at this time v24+ False Negative submission remains stubborn


VirusTotal report here





IDP.ALEXA.54
4c6941927147/2025-08-17T14:30:34.948Z

IDP.Generic
a517146cfe00/2025-08-17T14:30:59.524Z

File: SimLogic.exe
File size: 71.4 MB (74,834,816 bytes)
MD5 checksum: 9B12CEC355FAFC450A381E3168013BA0
SHA1 checksum: E736E7936FA7F80A660F03A7A8D800DDD7151304
SHA256 checksum: 3CF2B87284CDE36FB5B37B1DB75ED0FE40F468B77AB14B12DB32F672B91603DF
Date/Time: 8/17/2025

VirusTotal report here

IDP.ALEXA.54
4c6941927147/2025-08-17T14:30:34.948Z

IDP.Generic
a517146cfe00/2025-08-17T14:30:59.524Z


79261a0bf555/2025-08-18T05:56:32.685Z

Threat name: IDP.ALEXA.54
Threat type: Miscellaneous - This is an app that you may have unknowingly installed and that may harm your computer performance.
Status: Threat detected
Detected by: Behavioral Protection
On PC from: Unknown
Last Used: Unknown
Startup Item: No
Unknown
It is unknown how many users in the Norton Community have used this file.
Unknown
The file release is currently unknown
High
The file risk is high.
Activity
Path | Type | Status
C:\USERS\USER\APPDATA\LOCAL\TEMP\30AC2KL9MYQ6ZLRFZCBFIHPP59J\SIMLOGIC.EXE | File | Deleted
C:\USERS\USER\APPDATA\LOCAL\TEMP\30AC2KL9MYQ6ZLRFZCBFIHPP59J\SIMLOGIC.EXE | Process | Terminated
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\30ac2Kl9MYq6ZLRfZCbFiHpP59J\SimLogic.exe | Process | Terminated
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\30ac2Kl9MYq6ZLRfZCbFiHpP59J\SimLogic.exe | Process | Terminated
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\30ac2Kl9MYq6ZLRfZCbFiHpP59J\SimLogic.exe | Process | Terminated
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\30ac2Kl9MYq6ZLRfZCbFiHpP59J\SimLogic.exe | Process | Terminated
C:\USERS\USER\APPDATA\LOCAL\TEMP\NSW9949.TMP\7Z-OUT\SIMLOGIC.EXE | File | Deleted
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\7e20c1ae-c31c-4d8c-9550-455bb5414dd9.tmp.node | File | Deleted
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\af61a2ea-972e-4f46-b3e9-011a3b318eb9.tmp.node | File | Deleted
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\ba5ca2da-afaf-4fe0-b651-d1b8bbb8cf31.tmp.node | File | Deleted
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\ae0f0fc9-446b-4f1b-8eb9-14912da1460d.tmp.node | File | Deleted
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\c9a1b82e-34ef-474e-a896-a97d654aeb66.tmp.node | File | Deleted
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\146e1e64-8fe4-45eb-b81e-57559463db7f.tmp.node | File | Deleted
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\c210e68c-a046-4b43-83d6-a984740f5721.tmp.node | File | Deleted



File: SimLogic.exe
File size: 71.4 MB (74,834,816 bytes)
MD5 checksum: 9B12CEC355FAFC450A381E3168013BA0
SHA1 checksum: E736E7936FA7F80A660F03A7A8D800DDD7151304
SHA256 checksum: 3CF2B87284CDE36FB5B37B1DB75ED0FE40F468B77AB14B12DB32F672B91603DF
Date/Time: 8/18/2025

VirusTotal report here




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AI Overview
The “IDP.ALEXA.54” detection by antivirus software like Avast is often a false positive, meaning it incorrectly flags legitimate software as malicious. It’s a generic detection by the antivirus’s heuristic engine, which can misinterpret certain behaviors or file types as harmful.

Heuristic Detection:
IDP.ALEXA.54 is a generic detection used by antivirus programs to identify potential threats based on suspicious behavior or characteristics.

False Positives:
Newly created executables, files in the %temp% directory, or even legitimate software from trusted sources can trigger this detection, leading to false alarms.

Potential Malicious Behavior:
While often a false positive, IDP.ALEXA.54 can sometimes indicate genuine malware, particularly if it’s bundled with other suspicious files or behavior.

Action to Take:
If you’re certain the software is legitimate and from a trusted source, you can safely ignore the detection. If you’re unsure, consider scanning the file with a different antivirus program or uploading it to VirusTotal for a second opinion. If the second scan also flags the file as malicious, it’s recommended to remove it.

AI responses may include mistakes.

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SimAppPro shortcut call … causes Norton to chew on \app.asar.unpacked\SimLogic.exe and what appears to be related temp files (since, I’d cleared Quarantine & System temp files)






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Note: earlier related events here

subsequent SimAppPro shortcut call


87027cc61a4a/2025-08-18T11:35:38.025Z




Note: SimAppPro files are not signed

Hello @MrLee_Rose
fwiw ~ I sent an email to WinWing https://winwingsim.com/view/contact.html…pointing to @MrLee_Rose thread.
Note: I’m not familiar with WinWing/SimAppPro. I imagine a SimAppPro user will communicate better with WinWing.

Regards w Respect

fwiw ~ SimAppPro desktop shortcut call = Download Intelligence (DI) continues to scan SimLogic.exe


and then without DI popup/dialog reporting DI findings.
Security History populates:


I’ve no idea if this scanning is normal or because I’ve not set up (done something) SimAppPro.
I’m wondering whether…if I do something with SimAppPro… then this scanning will stop.
I’ll need OP to chime in with their observations.

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When Download Intelligence scans a file. I’ve seen…for example…



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Note: I’m not familiar with WinWing/SimAppPro.

Thank You so much for all your time and effort regarding this ! It’s very much appreciated ! I’d buy you a nice cold beer ! Or two !

Kind Regards

Lee

See thread for my reply ! Thanks so so much !

Lee

I’m curious what SimAppPro is doing your side…now.
Now, that known Unproven are cleared.
Note: since SimAppPro files are not signed. Norton may never be satisfied.

Hello @bjm and @MrLee_Rose,

Thank you for the very detailed investigation and reproduction of the issue. I’m sorry for the delay and trouble with the file submission.

I’ve checked, and there should no longer be a detection from Norton. If you encounter any, please let me know, ideally with a screenshot.

Thanks again!

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Hello @MrLee_Rose

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