I am another who will no longer be using Norton products. After 20 years of using them on every device I could they will no longer get my money. Subscription renewal popped up today and I just got done deleting all of my payment information and cancelling service. I didn't even use the NRA discount but believe your venture into politics is a lose lose for you as a company. You should have just ended all discount programs if you wanted out of the politics. But instead you targeted just the NRA. Companies should just be companies and not get involved at all. Leave the politics to voters and politicians. I think I will just donate my subscription amount to the NRA since it won't be going to Norton.
I've been a loyal Norton customer since 2006 when I purchased and used Norton System Works. I currently have three subscriptions for my devices, Norton Identity Protection and 2 Norton 360 subscriptions. All had auto renewals for several years; not anymore. I am a long time NRA member and cannot believe a company such as Norton would fold to phony political pressure. What ever happened to businesses providing a product or service to customers who choose to use their products and services, and then just say thank you. Getting involved in political stances that have nothing to do with your core business is of course their prerogative, but so is choosing to use another provider. I just cancelled my auto-renewals and will be switching to a different provider. Sorry Norton, I support those who provide what I need and don't surrender to political pressure after a few phony tweets.
Taco, what color is the sky in your world? I now know that you only are interested in the raspy, screeching sound of your own voice and your bigotry. It is so easy to make statements like you did that it isn't even fair (or useful) to try to correct you. It is obvious that you just want to bounce around in your little echo chamber. I guess everyone else has figured you out and lets you talk to yourself. Bye bye, buddy. You introduced me to a new low.
Thank you, you just gave me a good example of how people respond when they don't have a good argument - attack the people who do. This particular thread is for a discussion of Norton's decision to punish the NRA. I haven't heard anything like your post since I was a kid on the playground. I will go and discuss things with grownups now.
My wife and I are NRA members who have been loyal Norton customers for more than 20 years and LifeLock customers for the past 3 years. We just cancelled our 10 license Norton auto-renewal today and we will be moving on from Norton Security and LifeLock. We're sorry to do this, but it works both ways.
No political view here. Just business. This is what Symantec seems to have forgotten. They DID have a poorly advertised discount that they did not have to provide, and it earned them a little business. They broadly advertised the withdrawal of the discount, with the aim of looking as if they were working for the betterment of all mankind. It was their business decision. At the end of the day, business should focus on providing a service or product that people need and want. Leave social work to those who know how. I perceive of the company as weak in direction, and adrift in it's identity as a provider of security. I do not do business with the weak or conflicted, and I did not wait for certificate expirations. I changed everything that I have over, to another provider that concentrates only on providing security services, not social justice or some perceived diversity. Myself, and the business that I serve "have left the building". Not counting my few personal computers, 132 machines. The damage to the Symantec name is not repairable to us. For us, it's just good business.
I am an NRA member. I just called Symantec to complain about their new policy. They immediately offered to give me a 50% discount off my current Norton account -- even though I am an NRA member! I told them no thanks, and that I intend to cancel my Norton account an move to McAfee within 30 days unless they change their public policy so all can get discounts. Such hypocrites.
The anti-NRA posts are characterized by insults (example: "NRAtards"). This is an example of the old adage: "If you have a good argument - present it; if not, attack your opponent."
I'm not an NRA member, but I will no longer use Norton. I've turned off my auto-renewal.
I believe in the 2nd. It is the bedrock of freedom. Just ask African-Americans from the 19th and early 20th century (if you could) how the Democrats disarmed them in order to lynch at will.
The NRA is the longest surviving civil rights organization in America. How horrible to blame them for the incompetent, political hack of a sheriff who had multiple chances to arrest and disarm Cruz. There are now investigations into 66 incidents of malfeseance by this sheriff's office.
I have been reading the comments here and I am amazed at the short sighted shallow reasoning (or, the lack thereof). The typical attack on the NRA never goes beyond the emotional level. I was once of the opinion that I didn't want to have a gun - didn't need one. That all changed about twenty years ago when my wife and I were walking on a forest service road a mile or so from the edge of our high country cabin community. We were confronted by a person who I still believe meant to do us harm. That immediately changed my mind. We were a long way from help - at that time we had no cell phone service in that area. The only thing that the authorities would have been able to do is put us in body bags and start an investigation. I had a sudden emotional response, but I followed it up with a reasoned solution. I accepted the fact that I was responsible for my own personal defense! I got training, I bought a hand gun, I qualified for a concealed carry permit. I did more training - continuous training. I pray that I will never have to draw my weapon except for training and practice. I can guarantee you that if you are ever confronted by a crazed shooter you will pray (or hope) that you have someone like me near you. If not, the police will come and put you in a body bag and start an investigation. I am a proud NRA member.
The exorcising of the NRA continues by good and upstanding companies like Symantec. Companies, just like people, eventually recognize what is right and good. It's heartwarming to see the care that companies and people have for the victims of gun violence, and the backbone being shown against the purveyors of hate and death.
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An insurance company says it will stop selling policies endorsed by the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Lockton Affinity has notified the NRA that it will discontinue providing brokerage services for NRA-endorsed insurance programs under the terms of its contract,” insurance broker Lockton said in a tweet.
I've expressed my views and my struggles with whether I will choose to maintain a relationship with Symantec.
This follow-up post is to commend Symantec for allowing the free flow of discussion by keeping this thread open. With the exception of Frank V and a couple of others, everyone has been respectful regardless of their position. This is a topic that elicits strong emotions by everyone, and I am encouraged by the fact that, with few exceptions, dozens of people have weighed in without stooping to the immature name-calling and insults that usually dominate these discussions and serve only to shut down all debate, discussion, compromise and solutions. I even commend Symantec for leaving those disrespectful posts intact. In addition to respecting free speech, it let's all of us see who is reasonable and thoughtful and who is not.
I still maintain that Symantec has made a mistake. But they are a private business and, thanks to the freedoms we cherish, have every right to choose to grant, and withdraw, whatever product incentives they choose to whomever they choose. And we have a right to buy, or not buy, their products, and to voice our approval or disapproval of their business practices.
You may not be listening, Symantec, but thank you for not shutting us up, regardless of your official terms of service.
NRA Life member, Pistol Instructor, Range Safety Officer, Safari Club International member, Hunter, Venison-eater, Norton customer since the DOS days no longer, cancelled auto-renew, put your money where you mouth is, so long.