Symantec has business relationship with NRA

Frank V Actually the usage terms of service agreement doesn't allow for using the forums as a political front. Its not about anyone's rights its an binding agreement we all must abide by.https://community.norton.com/en/legal Admins will more than likely either lock the topics or remove them altogether for those reasons. Have a great day.

Plus Newsweek has terms of service, see 4. YOUR USE OF OUR CONTENT IS RESTRICTED:(a) Unless expressly permitted, you may not copy, reproduce, distribute, publish, enter into a database, display, perform, modify, create derivative works from, transmit or in any way exploit any part of our site or any content thereon .....

 

This is a sad day when a company discriminates against a large number of it's user base. I am also a NRA member so, I know when I'm not welcome anymore. Will move along to another product solution. This was timely for me as I needed to do renewals on all our endpoints in April. It was a good gig while it lasted.

Going to repeat my earlier post since it was attacked by SPAM. Also reported to Moderators. Hope they can solve this.
 

I have been a member of the NRA for years, and additionally a customer of both Norton Anti Virus and Lifelock since...Norton 2012 Lifelock 2015.

I am not going to debate the pro and cons of the NRA, gun control, etc. The folks here that have an opinion have that opinion, and nothing I write is going to change that. I am saddened at the hatred in some of the posts I have seen here. Very sad.

Here are my issues with the subject. My Airline of choice is SWA. They have never been a NRA discount partner. I am not sure if they have been approached, but if they have, and declined I have absolutely no problem with their decision.

However, Symantec DID decide to take advantage of the profits they would receive by offering discounts through the NRA. Then when it became "uncomfortable" to have that "relationship" in a frantic knee jerk decision, they bailed.

Now, for a company that rents cars, sells flowers, etc. That is not a big deal. However, and this is my issue, Symantec has my personal data, all of it. I am not comfortable with someone that "knee jerks" having that information any longer.

I have written and called Symantec, advised them that I respect their decision, but no longer "trust" them with my personal data. NOT because of their stance, but because of the way they reacted. I have requested that they erase all my personal data, and provide documentation showing they have. They have advised they can not do that.

While I respect their decision and position, I feel that anyone that wants to leave them, and ensure they have none of their personal data should be respected as well. I have now allowed others to handle this for me in a legal manner.

I have also advised the NRA they should no longer attempt to secure discounts. I have never used a NRA discount. Don't care about them. In fact I don't think any organization should offer them whether it be AARP, Airline Clubs, etc. As is evident here, too much crap!

Finally, and what concerns me the most, the entire world, media, etc. is no longer talking about solving this horrific problem we have, but taking about stupid discounts! Very Very SAD!

 

 

 

Edward Smith 2 is neither a Canadian nor a real poster. It is spam. I have notified moderators. Do not judge Canadians on this please!

Edward Smith 2 is why I dislike Canadians. This is a US issue. Stay out of it.

Congrats to Symantec for having the guts to dump the NRA discounts... 

LOL...Chi-Town....Murder Capital of the world 99% done by illegal gun owners.

I have been a member of the NRA for years, and additionally a customer of both Norton Anti Virus and Lifelock since...Norton 2012 Lifelock 2015.

I am not going to debate the pro and cons of the NRA, gun control, etc. The folks here that have an opinion have that opinion, and nothing I write is going to change that. I am saddened at the hatred in some of the posts I have seen here. Very sad.

Here are my issues with the subject. My Airline of choice is SWA. They have never been a NRA discount partner. I am not sure if they have been approached, but if they have, and declined I have absolutely no problem with their decision.

However, Symantec DID decide to take advantage of the profits they would receive by offering discounts through the NRA. Then when it became "uncomfortable" to have that "relationship" in a frantic knee jerk decision, they bailed.

Now, for a company that rents cars, sells flowers, etc. That is not a big deal. However, and this is my issue, Symantec has my personal data, all of it. I am not comfortable with someone that "knee jerks" having that information any longer.

I have written and called Symantec, advised them that I respect their decision, but no longer "trust" them with my personal data. NOT because of their stance, but because of the way they reacted. I have requested that they erase all my personal data, and provide documentation showing they have. They have advised they can not do that.

While I respect their decision and position, I feel that anyone that wants to leave them, and ensure they have none of their personal data should be respected as well. I have now allowed others to handle this for me in a legal manner.

I have also advised the NRA they should no longer attempt to secure discounts. I have never used a NRA discount. Don't care about them. In fact I don't think any organization should offer them whether it be AARP, Airline Clubs, etc. As is evident here, too much crap!

Finally, and what concerns me the most, the entire world, media, etc. is no longer talking about solving this horrific problem we have, but taking about stupid discounts! Very Very SAD!






 

Typical tide pod eating leftist. copies and pastes an article someone else wrote because the moron can't come up with one for itself. Then throws a couple of his/hers/still trying to decide, childish name calling. it says "Go and whine and cry elsewhere." Meanwhile this waste of humanity is the one whining and crying! Pathetic yet laughable. I'm going to buy more 30round mags, because I can, while this asshat sits in mommys basement wondering why no one likes it.

http://home.nra.org/

And.... from Newsweek:

The National Rifle Association's financing and followers might be enough to mute some politicians and hamstring gun control legislation, but its money and membership are peanuts to big businesses who have flouted the group in the days since a 19-year-old slaughtered 17 people at a Parkland, Florida, high school with a legally purchased military-style rifle. 

In the past, the NRA has advertised that its members could enjoy discounted deals from companies like Avis Budget Group, Best Western, United Airlines, MetLife and Wyndham Worldwide. But since Thursday, those companies and several others have announced they have ended or will soon end their corporate partnerships with the gun group. The announcements come in the wake of the tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on February 14 and as much of the public has buffeted the NRA and called for stricter gun regulations.

The corporate exodus, however, isn't over these companies' values or their positions on gun regulations, according to William Klepper, a professor at professor at the Columbia Business School—it's simply about prudence. 

"Is it ideological?" Klepper said to Newsweek. "I think it's flat out good business on their behalf."

 

A demonstrator from the group CodePink holds up a banner as National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre delivers remarks during a news conference at the Willard Hotel on December 21, 2012, in Washington, D.C.—one week after Adam Lanza used an assault-style rifle to slaughter 20 schoolchildren and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The NRA faces renewed criticism after a 19-year-old used a military-style AR-15 rifle to gun down 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14.

"We've reached a tipping point with regard to this issue [of gun control] in the general society and companies that are worth their salt—and CEOs specifically—are constantly trying to read the tea leaves," Klepper said. "They're not operating in a vacuum; they've gotten the reaction from the constituents. And, in most cases, their constituents are their customers."

Klepper said businesses are quicker to cross the NRA because their clients far outnumber the NRA's purported membership of 5 million. "It's an impressive number when you throw it out, but now you've got to put in context," he said. For context, TrueCar.com, an online car-buying service that announced its discount deal with the NRA would end on February 28, had nearly 10 million visitors to its website last month, according to SimilarWeb.com, which tracks Internet traffic. 

"Really, the principled voice that we're hearing is not from the government, it's from businesses. That's because they respond immediately to the voice of the people," Klepper said, adding, "that's what good businesses do."

http://www.newsweek.com/businesses-cutting-ties-nra-politicians-reluctant-money-values-821223

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Ok, so all you NRAtards whining and crying.... "I'm gonna leave... wah wah wah...."

Nobody cares.

Just leave.  You will not be missed..... financially or otherwise.

Go and whine and cry elsewhere.

I JUST joined the NRA.  My engineering company of ~120 employees has ended there business relationship with Symantec. 

Symantec has made their choice.  So have US.  Norton was not that good and their support was a joke anyway. 

From the Chicago Trib:

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In addition to acting as responsible corporate citizens, these companies (ridding themselves of the NRA) are teeing up an important new business strategy. They’re aligning themselves with an emerging market of younger, more socially conscious consumers and financial backers who want to connect with companies that address big social justice issues, including a crackdown on gun violence.

The corporate backlash against the NRA and its approximately 5 million members shows no sign of abating. In addition to United Airlines, the anti-NRA crowd includes Delta Air Lines, Hertz, Avis Budget, Enterprise, Symantec (owner of the LifeLock identity theft protection company), SimpliSafe (home security), insurer MetLife and First National Bank of Omaha, which offered a branded NRA Visa credit card.

Amazon, Google and Apple are under pressure to stop offering an NRA channel through their streaming services.

That channel is sort of an ongoing infomercial, showcasing segments about various firearms and gun-related issues, including one about the difficulty of buying an AR-15 semi-automatic weapon in California because of red tape and a 10-day waiting process. The NRA’s correspondent boasted about getting the gun in time for Christmas.

There are online petitions calling for an end to this programming. One petition on Change.org had about 166,000 supporters by midday Monday. So far, the digital behemoths aren’t discussing the NRA streaming issue.

Nevertheless, the controversy isn’t going away. Each company will be pressed into the uncomfortable position of justifying to customers and shareholders why they’re essentially partnering with the gun lobbying group.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/reed/ct-biz-nra-business-backlash-robert-reed-0227-story.html

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Big Kudos to Symantec for being a forward-leaning progressive company.  The tiny number of NRA crybabies that Symantec sheds is nothing.  Symantec and the other companies shedding themselves of the NRAtards will be financially advantaged for doing so.  The American people no longer want a mindless gun lobby promoting killing.

Bravo Symantec.

I wanted to express my absolute disgust at Symantec for their stance on this issue and will be ending my over 10-year subscription to Norton. I'm an NRA member but never knew about, nor took advantage of any NRA discounts for one. Symantec never advertised these discounts that I'm aware of so why make an issue out of their NRA affiliation now. Dumb move Symantec to take a political stance against NRA members and just about every conservative out there, including those that support the second amendment but aren't NRA members. I already turned off my auto-renewal (I suggest those of you wanting to stop supporting Symantec products do the same) and will let my subscription expire as of this May unless Symantec changes their position.

I've been a Norton user since 2008. I'm a proud NRA member and will be canceling my subscription unless Symantec reverses their position. Just turned off my auto-renewal option, expires in May.

Yeah, sounds like a Canadian.

BYE!

 

McAfee, PCMATIC, etc.

I will join the long list of NRA members who have stated our disgust at the actions of Symantec. As soon as I heard about the attacks on the NRA, I renewed my membership early. I was planning to subscribe to Lifelock but I will not do that now. I have used Norton Security for many years but I am looking at other companies that will not sell out to the trolls at the first sign of a threat.

I guess Norton was so overwhelmed by the decision to stop partnering with the NRA that they closed the thread. No one needs to respond to this, but I sent the following comment to Norton via the "feedback" portion of Norton Security:

"I am disgusted by Symantec's' decision to cut ties with the NRA. I have been a loyal customer since the '90's, but I will be shopping for a new anti-virus provider after my subscription runs out. I guess everyone blames the NRA for all the countries shooting sprees. Go ahead and repeal the 2nd amendment and the law abiding citizen’s right to free speech and the right to bear arms. I'm pretty sure you will get more feedback from others."

(My remark about receiving more feedback was understated.)

I guess Norton was so overwhelmed by the decision to stop partnering with the NRA that they closed the thread. No one needs to respond to this, but I sent the following comment to Norton via the "feedback" portion of Norton Security:

"I am disgusted by Symantec's' decision to cut ties with the NRA. I have been a loyal customer since the '90's, but I will be shopping for a new anti-virus provider after my subscription runs out. I guess everyone blames the NRA for all the countries shooting sprees. Go ahead and repeal the 2nd amendment and the law abiding citizen’s right to free speech and the right to bear arms. I'm pretty sure you will get more feedback from others."

(My remark about receiving more feedback was understated.)