Why am I turning many features in NIS 2012 to off?

Hi all:

 

As in my previous threads and posts, I strongly felt that NIS 2011 triumphed 2012 in several respects.

Believe me, I would not spend my time here if I didn't truly believe in the excellence of the product.

I (and others) just want NIS to be the best quality product that it can be. :smileyhappy:

 

I seem to be turning more features in 2012 off than on, keeping a "2011" configuration as much as possible in the hope of product refinement. There is something wrong with that. I wonder if Symantec has ever reached out to it's Forum members by email and asked them to complete a comprehensive online survey about ideas for the product, before coding them.

 

In my view, turning off 30% of 2012 product settings tells me that there is a high degree of overdevelopment and bloat.

 

Is "Crazy Flip" something that is going to enhance Security and Disaster recovery? Use your resources more wisely!

 

Why not slim down the product and make it truly shine, technically, instead of crowding it with features that people don't care about or will seldom use. Here's one example - Norton Optimizer. Why is that in a network security product in the first place? Additionally, the default setting is switched to on. I remember turning it off in 2011 as well. Norton Optimizer just calls the built-in Disk defragmenter within windows during idle time - nothing innovative here at all. So why bother?

 

There is a point where you are adding features to keep up on technical grounds and then you just have to stop.

I am seriously considering going back to NIS 2011 until this "insanity" is straightened out. Why not, right?

 

Microsoft missteped with Vista, yet roared back with Windows 7.

 

Symantec can do it as well. So please do it.

 

Just my rant.

 

Atomic_ Blast :)

Hi all:

 

As in my previous threads and posts, I strongly felt that NIS 2011 triumphed 2012 in several respects.

Believe me, I would not spend my time here if I didn't truly believe in the excellence of the product.

I (and others) just want NIS to be the best quality product that it can be. :smileyhappy:

 

I seem to be turning more features in 2012 off than on, keeping a "2011" configuration as much as possible in the hope of product refinement. There is something wrong with that. I wonder if Symantec has ever reached out to it's Forum members by email and asked them to complete a comprehensive online survey about ideas for the product, before coding them.

 

In my view, turning off 30% of 2012 product settings tells me that there is a high degree of overdevelopment and bloat.

 

Is "Crazy Flip" something that is going to enhance Security and Disaster recovery? Use your resources more wisely!

 

Why not slim down the product and make it truly shine, technically, instead of crowding it with features that people don't care about or will seldom use. Here's one example - Norton Optimizer. Why is that in a network security product in the first place? Additionally, the default setting is switched to on. I remember turning it off in 2011 as well. Norton Optimizer just calls the built-in Disk defragmenter within windows during idle time - nothing innovative here at all. So why bother?

 

There is a point where you are adding features to keep up on technical grounds and then you just have to stop.

I am seriously considering going back to NIS 2011 until this "insanity" is straightened out. Why not, right?

 

Microsoft missteped with Vista, yet roared back with Windows 7.

 

Symantec can do it as well. So please do it.

 

Just my rant.

 

Atomic_ Blast :)

Hi SendOfJive:

 

I reverted back to NIS 2011 on my XP and 7 boxes and feel right at home.

 

When I begin to see a positive trend with 2012, I will reinstall it.

 

Atomic_Blast :)

 

I agree.  Stop adding easter egg that simply bloat the software.

Hi Folks:

 

I have cleanly uninstalled NIS 2011 and reinstalled 2012 on my XP box for troubleshooting purposes.

Guess, I have to face reality - not run from it. (My Win 7 box is still running 2011, though. :smileywink:)

 

FWIW.

 

Atomic_Blast :)

I can probably live with the optimizer software but I can't really understand the smart definition feature.

 

Also, it seems due to the easter egg, the size of the Norton software have increased exponentially (NIS11 was around 90mb but NIS12 is 100 mb).  Even Microsoft stopped adding easter eggs.

Not related to this issue but thanks "mikedov" for the hint about the social badge.

Hi mikedov:

 


You wrote:

 

I can't really understand the smart definition feature.


 

I understand it, but it is really unnecessary (i.e. extra baggage,) in my opinion. I have it turned off.

 

It's better to be completely safe by having the complete definition set.

 

Atomic_Blast :)

 

I totaly agree with this thread!  I can see that disk access has slowed down going from 2011 to 2012.  Even start up time has slowed.  If I wanted optimization, then I would have gotten Norton 360 or purchased an optimization program.

 

Microsoft had it right when they created Microsoft Management Console and they created it for a reason.  I am tired of having software that looks different from one another and having to go look in different places for setting and options.


mikedov wrote:

Also, it seems due to the easter egg, the size of the Norton software have increased exponentially (NIS11 was around 90mb but NIS12 is 100 mb).  Even Microsoft stopped adding easter eggs.


What makes you think NIS 2011 didn't have Easter Eggs? 


SendOfJive wrote:


mikedov wrote:

Also, it seems due to the easter egg, the size of the Norton software have increased exponentially (NIS11 was around 90mb but NIS12 is 100 mb).  Even Microsoft stopped adding easter eggs.


What makes you think NIS 2011 didn't have Easter Eggs? 



Did it?  But its file size was quite small (certainly smaller than the 2012 version.  I wonder what the file size would be WITHOUT the eggs.

HI mikedov:

 

Functionality, reliability and performance are paramount.

 

Items like Easter Eggs are rather trivial in the scheme of things.

It's not so much the size of the software, but how it's designed.

 

Atomic_Blast :)

What I meant is that Norton have a bad reputation of being "heavy."  Instead of removing useful features (like offline help support), reduce the weight by dropping the Easter eggs and other "fancy schmancy" like the activity map (if you do want to include an activity map, link to an online page or something.  Also, perhaps we could see less resources being wasted designing these "extra" features that are only seen once and more resources being poured into the actual testing and perfecting the product (why was Norton 2012 released with tons of bugs?).

I'm just sayin' - not finding an Easter Egg doesn't mean there aren't any hiding.  It is interesting that so far, everything else mentioned in this thread as NIS 2012 bloat - the Optimizer and Smart Definitions -  was also present in NIS 2011.  Most of the changes in NIS 2012 were enhancements to features already present in the earlier versions, so it seems likely that this accounts for some of the growth in the program and its footprint.  Here is a summary of what was introduced in 2012:

 

http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Protection-Blog/What-s-New-in-Norton-Internet-Security-2012/ba-p/433160

I am running Norton internet security 2012 version in my desktop PC (intel pentium 4 HT ,1 GB RAM ,Windows 7 sp1 x86) ,there is no performance related issue found infact my PC is running smoothly. Definitely norton adds noticeable time in Windows startup but once it loads no issue after that.

 

Before that i was using free avast in my p4 PC because of less RAM (1 GB) but after installing NIS 2012 no performance difference between free avast and NIS 2012. Remember free avast is just antimalware while NIS 2012 is a full security suite.

 

 

Why are Symantec not listening?

Many of us have said regarding NIS 2011 we don't want unnecessary features and if you insist on giving them to us, we don't want them enabled by default. We don't want easter eggs and we don't want bloated software.

So why do we have exactly that?

Why do Symantec persist with giving us the god awful activity map. WE DON'T WANT IT. WE DON'T CARE.

Identifying virus threats is your business - not ours, and it doesn't make you look more impressive by shoving activity maps down our throat.