Why isn't NIS shown as a startup application in msconfig or windows defender?

It's more of a technical question.I have NIS 2010 17.1.0.19 installed on Vista Sp2.As a additional security application I'm using Zemana Antilogger.Why isn't NIS shown as a startup application in msconfig or windows defender? As a matter of fact, NIS isn't listed in msconfig or windows defender at all, as if it wasn't even installed on my computer.The only place I can see that NIS is running and active is task manager(2 processes ccSvcHst.exe) and windows security center.Thinking of possible reasons I came up with idea of "early load", function which I did enable at the very beginning.Still it's bothering me what might be possible cause for such strange application behaviour.I tested quite a few security applications in the past and never encountered security application that is so hidden in windows system:) Anyway, regards to you all at Symantec and thanks for a great program which is really a huge improvement over the last versions.

 

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Message Edited by shannons on 11-20-2009 03:00 PM

Hi myoshi

 

Welcome to the Norton Forum

 

Is Zemania Antilogger an on demand program? If it is a program that is always running, then it is going to conflict with your NIS. If you had this Zemania program installed before you installed NIS 2010, your NIS may not have installed properly. In addition you have Windows Defender also. It looks like you may have an overkill installed in your computer. You should only have 1 real time security program installed at one time.

Zemana is a realtime application, but not an antivirus program and this is not the case I think.Zemana is compatible to run with most of security programs.Different security applications can work alongside (unless they are antivirus programs), some indeed are incompatible, but as far as I know Zemana is certified to work with NIS.Windows Defender in Vista comes pre-installed and also, it’s not an antispyware program per se either, it has many differrent and vital functions besides antispyware component, which is rather weak and irrelevant here. I keep Windows Defender not for security reasons.The Autofix function in NIS suggests that everything is 100% fine with my Norton.Thanks for your response

Hi myoshi

 

I did find this chart by the makers of that program and according to that site, it is compatable, but that is according to the program's maker.

http://www.zemana.com/AntiloggerCompatibility.aspx#tab

 

I would still think though since both programs are real time and there are some functions that are done by both programs, there would be some conflicts.


myoshi wrote:

It's more of a technical question.I have NIS 2010 17.1.0.19 installed on Vista Sp2.As a additional security application I'm using Zemana Antilogger.Why isn't NIS shown as a startup application in msconfig or windows defender? As a matter of fact, NIS isn't listed in msconfig or windows defender at all, as if it wasn't even installed on my computer.The only place I can see that NIS is running and active is task manager(2 processes ccSvcHst.exe) and windows security center.Thinking of possible reasons I came up with idea of "early load", function which I did enable at the very beginning.Still it's bothering me what might be possible cause for such strange application behaviour.I tested quite a few security applications in the past and never encountered security application that is so hidden in windows system:) Anyway, regards to you all at Symantec and thanks for a great program which is really a huge improvement over the last versions.

 



MSConfig and Windows Defender are reporting the user applications that are run. NIS runs one user application -- ccSvcHst -- but it isn't launched through conventional methods. It gets launched by a service. This prevents malware from coming along and stopping the NIS user application from running by removing it from the standard spots.

To expand on Reese’s answer, NIS should be as invisible as possible.  The harder it is for you to “see” it or find it, the harder it is for malware to hijack it or sabotage it.


floplot wrote:

Hi myoshi

 

I did find this chart by the makers of that program and according to that site, it is compatable, but that is according to the program's maker.

http://www.zemana.com/AntiloggerCompatibility.aspx#tab

 

I would still think though since both programs are real time and there are some functions that are done by both programs, there would be some conflicts.


Flo, what the user is describing is proper behavior.  You will see this in Reese's response.