I have just ventured into the wireless realm.I have done some research but I am as confused as ever when trying to comprehend what is the best way how to set this up.
I have a 2wire Gateway australian model 2071A (2wire has been bought out by Pace so trying to find the guide was a headache) The 2wire came from my ISP.I have bought a Netgear wireless dual band gigabit ADSL2+modem router DGND3700v2.
I have it installed behind the 2wire and my computer plugs into the Netgear device.The 2wire is connected to the phone line and I have a yellow cable Cat5 between the 2wire and the Netgear.....
DSL line >2wire>netgear>my computer
The 2wire has set the Netgear to DMZplus to allow all traffic through it.I can see two items in my 2wire network UI the netgear is listed first it has an assigned IP,DHCP.
The next item is my computer (worked out by the Mac address) it is listed as Private (NAT),DHCP.
My question is this set up as secure as it can be? I have read about the DMZ plus enabled and it scares me a little that the netgear is set like this.I have also read about doing things with assigning IPs to each router etc but all the info just confuses me.
Any thoughts and help in the right direction would be appreciated.I do like the fact I can see all the wireless connections with NIS2012's network UI.The wireless is password protected.
The PDF in that 2071A information link is not my 2wire,it has a few extra settings in the GUI which I don't have.The whirlpool link however is very handy it gave me some understanding of what I am trying to do.
In my 2wire GUI settings there is a drop down box in "broadband link advanced settings" which gives me this selection for DSL and ATM settings.....ATM encapsulation:Routed VC-Mux Which is the selected choice at the moment
Bridged LLC
Bridged VC-Mux
Routed LLC
Is the above what I am looking for to make my 2 wire a bridge?.I am unsure if it is worthwhile to pursue this any further as it seems overly complicated.Everything works at the moment,all I want is to be sure all is protected.
Just as an aside, I now note only 1 item when I look at my Home network on the 2wire GUI.The netgear N600 is still there but the 2wire is not.Is that a good thing?
I have just ventured into the wireless realm.I have done some research but I am as confused as ever when trying to comprehend what is the best way how to set this up.
I have a 2wire Gateway australian model 2071A (2wire has been bought out by Pace so trying to find the guide was a headache) The 2wire came from my ISP.I have bought a Netgear wireless dual band gigabit ADSL2+modem router DGND3700v2.
I have it installed behind the 2wire and my computer plugs into the Netgear device.The 2wire is connected to the phone line and I have a yellow cable Cat5 between the 2wire and the Netgear.....
DSL line >2wire>netgear>my computer
The 2wire has set the Netgear to DMZplus to allow all traffic through it.I can see two items in my 2wire network UI the netgear is listed first it has an assigned IP,DHCP.
The next item is my computer (worked out by the Mac address) it is listed as Private (NAT),DHCP.
My question is this set up as secure as it can be? I have read about the DMZ plus enabled and it scares me a little that the netgear is set like this.I have also read about doing things with assigning IPs to each router etc but all the info just confuses me.
Any thoughts and help in the right direction would be appreciated.I do like the fact I can see all the wireless connections with NIS2012's network UI.The wireless is password protected.
Just as an aside, I now note only 1 item when I look at my Home network on the 2wire GUI.The netgear N600 is still there but the 2wire is not.Is that a good thing?
Yes , that sounds normal. I would hate to venture a guess about that "ATM encapsulation:Routed VC-Mux" stuff without consulting the user guide. There can be many steps involved in getting to the proper configuration screens and choosing the correct settings - and most of those settings involve acronyms, so you kind of have to follow along and take the manual's word for it. And, of course, you want to get it right, because basically, you are turning the modem into a bridge, and then you will need to configure the router to do what the modem had been handling. Check your ISP's website. Many of them now provide step-by-step instructions for adding routers behind their modems and you might get lucky and find exactly what you need. Also, check DSLReports.com for your ISP and modem - they may have some articles to help you along.
I took a chance and removed the 2 wire from my set up,directly plugged the ADSL cable straight into the new Netgear N600.Ran the N600 setup again and put in my ISP password when asked and everything is working ok....it is now NAT secured...no more DMZplus.
The only reason I did not do this in the first place was...
A) I thought I had to use the device (2wire gateway) My ISP sent me and not change it.
B) I was scared as too how hard it would be to work out any settings with a new modem.
Why do people use router behind router if all you have to do is use one or the other?
Why do people use router behind router if all you have to do is use one or the other?
Modems and routers are two different devices. As it turns out, the N600 has a built-in ADSL modem. If it were just a router, rather than a modem-router, you would not be able to use it without a modem.
I had an N600 here for a while and it performed quite well. It increased my line speed too, but Krusty killed it and I was a bit turned off to replace it. I have decided when the $$$s allow I'm going to grab one again though.
So far so good,I have a conflict with the IP address every so often and the boys complain about slow gaming speed with the PS3. I am sure if I could understand it all a bit better (networking conflicts,IP addresses etc) I am sure I could fine tune things.
By defaults, do you mean that I just plugged it in and started using it (I did set my ISP password into it)
I have done the whole ethernet cable with the Playstation..10metres of cable running through the house is not a pretty sight. The boys will just have to put up with it,I don't think they know how good they have it until its gone.
Yes, that was the defaults I meant. The only other settings I've changed were to use Norton DNS and to disable UPnP (for security reasons - Thanks to SendOfJive for the info) I don't play games online, so I don't know if you need that setting enabled or not.
I had a read through the user guide and as far as location goes, they recommend a centralised spot, but obviously we have to decide along with other factors, like where your phone line plugs in etc.
Thanks Dave for the UPnP link,I will look into that.
The phone line for me is at one end of the house...it would benefit everyone if the connection was in the middle of this house.I guess we just put up with these little issues.
I had an N600 here for a while and it performed quite well. It increased my line speed too, but Krusty killed it and I was a bit turned off to replace it. I have decided when the $$$s allow I'm going to grab one again though.
In my 2wire GUI settings there is a drop down box in "broadband link advanced settings" which gives me this selection for DSL and ATM settings.....ATM encapsulation:Routed VC-Mux Which is the selected choice at the moment
I had an N600 here for a while and it performed quite well. It increased my line speed too, but Krusty killed it and I was a bit turned off to replace it. I have decided when the $$$s allow I'm going to grab one again though.
Can you tell us how because I'm 110% sure that it is impossible, please be more specific.
Are you talking about modified SNR target, decreased line attenuation, (which is impossible unless the DSLAM comes nearer to your home), or what?
Thank you.
You are most likely correct as my ISP told me the same thing.
All I know is that when I tested my internet speed at speedtest.net with the modem / router from my ISP I got a consistent top download speed and when I changed to the new modem / router I get a consistently higher download speed. The exact same thing happened with the first NETGEAR modem / router I brought home before it died.
My ISP are unable to explain this to me, so perhaps you might provide me some insight.
As I mentionned in another thread, speedtest.net results are not accurate.
You can check 10 times a day and have 10 different speeds. sometimes even half the speed that your ISP provides.
The only way to check your real speed is to go to your ISP's FTP and downoload a large file, 1 GB or more, then if you use IE9 or IE 10 you click on "Settings" tab then "View downloads" and there you have you real throughput. (goodput+headers).
The only way to increase your download speed is to ask to your ISP and if the people there are kind enough, you can ask that they change your line profile and low the SNR margin. That way you can gain some Mbps, 2 or 3 or even 4 but you should check first that your router can operate in low SNR's and that you do not have many disconnections.
You should also check into your router's statistics what is the "attainable rate" of your line.
I actually asked my ISP to change my profile from SNR 9 to SNR 6, I do not have disconnections and I gained 3 Mbps.
Now my router syncs at about 20 mbps which gives my a download rate of about 2,15 MB/sec. (ADSL2+).
with the PS3. I am sure if I could understand it all a bit better (networking conflicts,IP addresses etc) I am sure I could fine tune things.