After Ghost 2003 Restore, ntldr missing

Using Ghost 2003 to create an image of a dual-boot system.  Here's the setup:

 

Windows XP (32 bit) installed on a RAID 0 set of two 160 GB disks, installed first, this is the boot disk

Windows 7 (64 bit) installed on a Vertex 2 SSD, installed after Windows XP

Blank 750 GB disk for storage

 

I installed Windows XP, then I installed Windows 7, and everything worked fine.  I'd get a boot menu when I started the computer and could boot into WinXP or Win7 with no problems.  So I used Ghost 2003 (boot disk) to image the XP drive.  I then turn around and immediately do a restore on the XP drive just to make sure it works, and I no longer can get into Windows XP.  I still get the boot menu, and I can boot into Win7, but I cannot boot into WinXP.  I get "ntldr missing" error message.  I tried to use the recovery console with the WinXP install CD and did fixmbr and fixboot, but then I lose the boot menu and now I can't get into Win7 and the system goes straight into Windows XP with no boot menu.

 

Your help is much appreciated!

 

-Matt

 

Using Ghost 2003 to create an image of a dual-boot system.  Here's the setup:

 

Windows XP (32 bit) installed on a RAID 0 set of two 160 GB disks, installed first, this is the boot disk

Windows 7 (64 bit) installed on a Vertex 2 SSD, installed after Windows XP

Blank 750 GB disk for storage

 

I installed Windows XP, then I installed Windows 7, and everything worked fine.  I'd get a boot menu when I started the computer and could boot into WinXP or Win7 with no problems.  So I used Ghost 2003 (boot disk) to image the XP drive.  I then turn around and immediately do a restore on the XP drive just to make sure it works, and I no longer can get into Windows XP.  I still get the boot menu, and I can boot into Win7, but I cannot boot into WinXP.  I get "ntldr missing" error message.  I tried to use the recovery console with the WinXP install CD and did fixmbr and fixboot, but then I lose the boot menu and now I can't get into Win7 and the system goes straight into Windows XP with no boot menu.

 

Your help is much appreciated!

 

-Matt

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

The boot menu is still there.  I can select Windows 7, after the restore, and boot to that OS no problem.  But for whatever reason I cannot get WinXP to work.  It's still a selection in the boot menu, but after I select it and hit 'Enter' I get the error message that \ntldr is missing or corrupt, error 0xc000000e.

 

What is Ghost changing???

Matt,

 

I'm confused. You said,

 

"and I no longer can get into Windows XP"

 

"but then I lose the boot menu and now I can't get into Win7 and the system goes straight into Windows XP with no boot menu."

 

"The boot menu is still there."

 

"I cannot get WinXP to work."

 

What is the latest? How did you get the boot menu back? Is it the original WinXP type boot.ini menu? Or a Win7 Boot Manager menu?

Ntldr is never really missing, at least I never seen that.   It's usually caused by the boot.ini pointing to the wrong location or the partitions have changed in either positions or number of partitions\disks.

 

XP has a different bootsector than vista and 7, the XP boot sector will only boot ntldr (XP)

The Vista/7 bootsector normally boots to winload.exe but is backwards compatible to be able to boot XP.

 

 

If you can't boot windows 7 and can only boot XP  (You did a XP startup repair), then you need to restore the windows 7 boot sector to get the menu back and be able to boot both.

You can do a startup repair from the windows 7 install disk or startup repair disk, or you can use EasyBCD.

 

If you can only boot windows 7 and not XP, check to make sure the drive and partition listed in the boot.ini is still accurate.

 

Dave

Dave,  Brian,

 

Thank you for your kind responses.  I will explain again.

 

After a restore from Ghost 2003, I still get the boot menu.  The disk that Windows XP installed on it is the boot disk, and that's where boot.ini, bootmgr, and all the other boot files are.  I can select, from the boot menu, Windows 7 and go to that OS with no problems.  (That OS resides on another wholly separate disk which is not the boot disk.)  Windows XP, however, gives me an error after I select it from the boot menu that \ntldr is missing.

 

My confusion is that Ghost is changing something.  I imaged the disk, and immediately restored that image to test it, and I can no longer get into Windows XP.  I made no changes.  I didn't even reboot the computer.  It's strange and confusing.  What's changing?  Why can the disk no longer boot into WinXP?

Matt,

 

Thanks. Clear now.

 

From Win7 I expect you can see the WinXP partition. Can you post the contents of boot.ini?

 

Ghost may have changed it.

what build of ghost do u use ?????

 

to find the build...  u have to open ghostexplorer and click under help the info....

it will say something like 2003.xxxx

 

 

sounds a bit like my problem... the build 793 is fixing the HD limitations of 80 GB (partion) of the previous versions 

ive expirence this way....... i latley used a 320 GB HD to backup.... the backup workes fine but I couldnt  restore

 

Ive copied the backup to a 80 GB HD and the restore worked fine

 

search the internet alternativly read this

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1254343374/3#3 

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/docid/2002102509582825 

 

btw... i have build 2003.789.... i am still looking for somebody helping me to get build 2003.793 German Version or direct download link.... because i cant update it with the Live Updater (thank you WIN 7) a private message would be great

 

 

 

I'll give this a try soon.  I don't understand why Ghost would have written to a file, however.  Does it do that?

Matt,

 

Any feedback for us?

sorry.. tooks me a bit longer to get back to the topic ..... i have solved the update from 2003.789 to 2003.793

 

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/I-need-HELP-on-Norton-Ghost-2003-Update-build-789-to-build-793/m-p/472632

 

click on the above link .... to see the solution

 

kind regards hellsbells