Copy Win 7 boot drive to SSD

I'm trying to copy to and boot from my new SSD with my current version of Win 7 now located on my hard drive.  The hard drive is configured with three partitions, as shown on Win 7's Disk management utility:

partition 1: 100 MB boot, page file, crash dump, primary partition

partition 2: C: 117.09 GB 53.9 GB used, 63.1 free

partition 3: D: 814.32 GB

The SSD is 112 GB

 

Using Ghost 15, I copied the first partition of the hard drive to the SSD with no problems, using the options specified in other posts.  When I attempted to copy the second partition (drive C:) with the options specified for it, Ghost almost completed, then gave an error message and the copy aborted with nothing copied.  I realized that the target was smaller, by about 6 GB, than the source and figure that is the reason it won't copy.  As noted above, only 53.9 GB is actually used, but I suppose that Ghost is doing a mirror image copy. 

Then, I tried restoring drive C: from a Ghost backup (the v2i files, about 34 GB total). This caused an even worse problem: I can't see the disk in the Disk Management console because i see the following next to it: 'the disk is offline because it has a signature collision with another disk that is online.'

 

Questions So far I haven't found a diskpart command (command line program in Win 7 and earlier) that will remove the signature from the SSD so that I can continue to work with it.  The 'clean' command does not work.  Is there a Ghost utility (either run from Win 7 or the System recovery disk) to allow me to wipe the disk and start over?

 

If I remove the partition and signature, I can repeat the partition 1 (the boot partition) copy as I did before.  For the drive C: copy, can I simply perform a file copy (instead of a disk copy) from partition 2 to the remaining area of the SSD after partitioning and formatting it, or will that not work?  If so, should I use Ghost to do the file copy, or use a command-line tree copy? 

 

The other option is to reduce the size of the C: partition on the hard disk to below that of the SSD and then copy it using Ghost and the options given.  But I have not been able to do that either, possibly because there are unmovable files near the end of the disk.  a. For instance, in Disk management, I can right-click on the C: partition and select Shrink volume.  The result of doing this returns a window that says the volume can be shrunk by only 0.5 GB (when I need to reduce it by 6 GB)!  This is the case even after I use the freeware program MyDefrag and select Consolidate free space to move files and directories to the beginning of the disk.  It shows pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys (labeled as nonmoveable system files) near the end of the partition. 

 

I haven't trid it yet, but Win 7 allows me to (I believe) remove pagefile.sys by setting virtual memory size to zero in an advanced dialog.  But it doesn't mention (in that dialog) how to remove hiberfil.sys.  I could remove temporarily remove pagefile.sys, resize the drive, then set virtual memory size back to the original.  Would this work? 

I'm trying to copy to and boot from my new SSD with my current version of Win 7 now located on my hard drive.  The hard drive is configured with three partitions, as shown on Win 7's Disk management utility:

partition 1: 100 MB boot, page file, crash dump, primary partition

partition 2: C: 117.09 GB 53.9 GB used, 63.1 free

partition 3: D: 814.32 GB

The SSD is 112 GB

 

Using Ghost 15, I copied the first partition of the hard drive to the SSD with no problems, using the options specified in other posts.  When I attempted to copy the second partition (drive C:) with the options specified for it, Ghost almost completed, then gave an error message and the copy aborted with nothing copied.  I realized that the target was smaller, by about 6 GB, than the source and figure that is the reason it won't copy.  As noted above, only 53.9 GB is actually used, but I suppose that Ghost is doing a mirror image copy. 

Then, I tried restoring drive C: from a Ghost backup (the v2i files, about 34 GB total). This caused an even worse problem: I can't see the disk in the Disk Management console because i see the following next to it: 'the disk is offline because it has a signature collision with another disk that is online.'

 

Questions So far I haven't found a diskpart command (command line program in Win 7 and earlier) that will remove the signature from the SSD so that I can continue to work with it.  The 'clean' command does not work.  Is there a Ghost utility (either run from Win 7 or the System recovery disk) to allow me to wipe the disk and start over?

 

If I remove the partition and signature, I can repeat the partition 1 (the boot partition) copy as I did before.  For the drive C: copy, can I simply perform a file copy (instead of a disk copy) from partition 2 to the remaining area of the SSD after partitioning and formatting it, or will that not work?  If so, should I use Ghost to do the file copy, or use a command-line tree copy? 

 

The other option is to reduce the size of the C: partition on the hard disk to below that of the SSD and then copy it using Ghost and the options given.  But I have not been able to do that either, possibly because there are unmovable files near the end of the disk.  a. For instance, in Disk management, I can right-click on the C: partition and select Shrink volume.  The result of doing this returns a window that says the volume can be shrunk by only 0.5 GB (when I need to reduce it by 6 GB)!  This is the case even after I use the freeware program MyDefrag and select Consolidate free space to move files and directories to the beginning of the disk.  It shows pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys (labeled as nonmoveable system files) near the end of the partition. 

 

I haven't trid it yet, but Win 7 allows me to (I believe) remove pagefile.sys by setting virtual memory size to zero in an advanced dialog.  But it doesn't mention (in that dialog) how to remove hiberfil.sys.  I could remove temporarily remove pagefile.sys, resize the drive, then set virtual memory size back to the original.  Would this work? 

In the attachment, my mouse pointer is hovering over an exclamation point to show the tooltip info about the 'signature collision.'  

SSD_offline.png

I can't see your screenshot yet but right click on the word Offline, left click Online.

It's a sector spread issue. You need to resize your C : drive to 110000MB.

 

See the early part of this thread....

 

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/Can-not-do-clonning-because-Norton-Ghost-15-cannot-see-valid/td-p/874200

Since you already defragged your drive and identified the files that are preventing windows from shrinking the partition, you may be able to easily shrink it without using any other tools.

 

hiberfil.sys is the hybernation file.  You can temporarily disable hybernation and the page file and see if you can shrink the partition over 7GB.

 

Disable hybernation:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/819-hibernate-enable-disable.html

 

Then disable the page file, reboot and see if disk management can now shrink the partition enough.

If it works you can then renable the page file and hybernation.

 

Dave

Would it be easier to boot the Ghost SRD, delete those two files, then use DiskPart to do the shrink?

I think it's the same thing, disabling hybernation and the page file deletes those files.  If a good defragger was used everything else should have been consolodated and nothing should go back to the end of the drive in a couple boots.

 

Depending on the size of the installed RAM it should be plenty of space.

Hybernation is usually around 75-100% of phsical RAM and swap file usually 100-150%.

So if 4GB of RAM is installed, that should be 7GB min- 10GB max just for those 2 files and I would think that a lot of free space proceeds them.

 

But it would be a quick and easy way to try to shrink it, should be able to find out in just a few minutes.

Dave

I removed the paging and hibernation files and reduced my drive C: by 20 GB to 99 GB - smaller than the SDD.  I had already copied the 100 MB boot partition.  Then I attempted to copy HD C: to SDD C: using Ghost, with the following options from your previous post as shown below. 

 

C_Drive resized.png

 

Check source for file system errors.  > the source is drive C
Check destination for file system errors  > disk 1 - the unallocated space
Resize drive to fill unallocated space
DON'T SELECT Disable SmartSector copying
DON'T SELECT Ignore bad sectors during copy
Destination partition type : Primary
Drive letter : None

 

It failed 5 minutes after starting with 1 % completed with the following error:

 

-Error EC8F17B3: Cannot complete copying of Programs (C:\) drive.

--Cannot copy source drive to destination location.

---Bad file record signature.

---Cannot copy source drive to destination location.

----Bad file record signature.

(UMI:V-0-3215-6067)

 

Any further suggestions? 

After I post, I plan to recreate the page file and add back the hibernation file. 

Open a command prompt and run CHKDSK /R for each drive letter. You should be given a message about needing to run at next boot. Say yes and reboot and let it run.

 

Better yet, boot the Ghost SRD and run the disk check utility from it. Analyze > Check Hard Disks for Errors.  Be sure to check both boxes to do a thorough check.

I'd use image/restore.

 

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/Ghost-won-t-finish-copying-or-recovering-to-new-SSD/m-p/880468#M53415

 

(message #10) Write the two images to the D: drive.

The SSD drive is now my boot drive!  Thanks so much for your help, Brian_K.  I'm replying to this post because your posting time shows 1 AM!  I'm thankful that you don't need much sleep! 

 

The Intel RAID on this motherboard allows

  • two 1 GB HDs to pair as a RAID 1 (duplicated) array,
  • the SSD on another SATA port to be the boot drive, and
  • the original 1 GB HD to hold the original boot and C partition as a backup, and also the D drive. 

I have an SSD question which you can answer if you know. 

Given that the SSD has limited writes, should I move the hiberfil.sys, partinfo.sys, and Thunderbird mail to another drive?  I'm guessing tht these files are constantly (well, maybe not hiberfil.sys) being rewritten. 

Great work. I'm pleased I could help. My last post was at 17:53 (Australia NSW) but I did make midnight and saw the New Year.

 

Your comments about SSDs is "old info". Put "everything" on the SSD as it's the fastest drive. It might wear out in 20 years. I never use Hibernation so if you want to get rid of it....

 

powercfg -h off