NIS2009 and concerns

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N.I.S. 2009 will fully-protect you as it has Upgraded Features, New Features added and even more Virus Definitions; on average, every five minutes.  It will also Protect you somewhat against Bots.  It is a very good Product.

I take it that it has good anti-hacking protection? Is hacking even a word anymore?

Yes it does.  It will have excellent “anti-hacking” software.

Please refer to the following reviews:

 

PC Magazine

CNET Review

 

Hope this will help with your concerns about NIS 2009.

Or this one: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330018,00.asp

Yep

The papers and websites do like Norton. Their only concern is the paid support. But guess what.............

 

That's why we are here

Hi NY1986 :smileyhappy:

 

 

You should Not be relying on the XP or Vista Firewall :smileysad:

 

Why?

Because they both only prevent things getting in... Not Getting Out! :smileysurprised:

 

Yes... The Vista Firewall is supposed to have - Outbound Protection.

But for some reason... Microsoft never set up that part of the Firewall.

So by Default...

The Vista Firewall - Just like the XP Firewall ... Only has Inbound Protection - Not Outbound!

 

Also...

To set up the Vista Firewall to give Outbound Protection - Is So Complicated...

Even the most experienced computer users - Don't Bother!

They just get a different Firewall :smileyvery-happy:

 

Now I'm not an experienced computer user.

And I'm definitely No Firewall expert

But I'll try to explain the best I can :smileywink:

 

Inbound & Outbound

 

 

Re : Vista & XP Firewall ... Inbound Protection - Only!

Say for instance while using the Vista or XP Firewall....

You Download a Movie Trailer or some Music that's infected with a Virus or spyware.

You've Invited it!

You've told you're Vista or XP Firewall ... I Want it!

( Obviously... You don't realise at this point - What you've downloaded is infected with malware )

Because you've invited the malware in - And the Vista & XP firewall have No Outbound protection....

That Malware can now... Phone Home - And Invite all it's malware friends to play.

Even Worse.... Phone Home - With Your Bank Details

 

 

Re : Norton Firewall ... Inbound & Outbound Protection

You do exactly the same thing...

You Download a Movie Trailer or some Music that's infected with a Virus or spyware.

You've Invited it!

You've told you're Norton Firewall ... I Want it!

( Obviously... You don't realise at this point - What you've downloaded is infected with malware )

The Difference is...

While NIS is busy catching the Virus or Spyware....

The Norton Firewall is busy .... Stopping that Malware - Phoning Home!

No Malware Friends Invited To Play

And You're Bank Details Are Safe :smileyvery-happy:

 

 

Hope This Helps!

 

 

Just Thought I Should Mention...

 

The Norton Firewall is one of very few Firewalls - That not only has Inbound & Outbound Protection...

But it is also... Easy to use!

Great if you have children.

 

Some Firewalls are so complicated - Tons Of ... Pop Ups!

They're are a nightmare to live with :smileysurprised:

 

One of the biggest reasons I keep going back to NIS...

Is because of it's user friendly Firewall :smileywink:

Message Edited by Zana on 09-12-2008 12:56 PM
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Good Morning NY1986,

 

If Zana's colorful recommendation doesn't convince you, I don't know what would!

 

Zana did a good job of describing the differences in Firewalls in user friendly terms. And don't forget the last paragraph - ease of use.

 

Go for it; you won't be sorry.

 

 

Thanks all. Very understandable. Kind of like if a criminal gets in, he can't get out without me knowing he's trying. Thus I can stop him from taking my stuff. My only worry is if something is going outbound, then what if I or my wife don't realise that its bad and let it out?

I guess thats just the danger that can be minimized

 

You all have been very helpful. I just want my firewall to allow NO inbound unsolicited connections.

 

But I guess the NIS gives so many layers of protection, that one would be as safe as possible

If the Firewall does not catch it, then Intusion Prevention will, because, generally, if a nasty gets in to your computer, then, it will start Attacks other Programs already installed on your computer.  And you have also got Advanced - yes, “Advanced”! - Behaviour-Detection monitoring which is Updated on a regular basis, e.g. every second day.  If that is not enough, V.D.s are Updated every five minutes, with big V.D.s every eight hours.

Hi Zana/others

I have often wondered what the firewall actually does,Thanks for a great explanation,unlike NY1986 I worry more of the connections coming out of the computer.So you have answered a long burning queston if something did get in by my lack of knowledge that Norton actually prevents the little critters from getting out?Is that correct.I'm trying to understand how often should a program that I've installed such as quicken/or different Microsoft applications should need to access the net?and recognising which is which I think as a novice PC user that confronts me the most and trying to find places on the net that explains what I want to know about this subject is a nightmare!!!!Thanks again to all for excellent answers and patience towards us novices.

Cheers MO

I worry about both and then some. But I think I have already established that fact. About the overabundance of worry :smileyhappy:

 

But honestly, between all the good folks on here, I realise much of my worry is unfounded

Mo,

  If something were to get in to your system, there is a good chance that the Out-bound Firewall will catch this - un-less the Virus re-names it's self something like "Microsoft [something] [something]", which the Out-bound Firewall may miss.

 

Also: And you have also got Advanced - yes, "Advanced"! - Behaviour-Detection monitoring which is Updated on a regular basis, e.g. every second day.  If that is not enough, V.D.s are Updated every five minutes, with big V.D.s every eight hours.

 

Microsoft programs may attempt to access the Internet once you have logged on to your P.C. after re-starting or Logging Off for the night; if not, then i would say about every few days or every week/few weeks.  Other programs: Again, maybe Daily, Weekly, Monthly.  I would not say Hourly or Secondly, that's for sure!

 

It is key that you keep you Norton Product up-to-date, otherwise, it will be your fault if something gets in because you are not Updating it enough.  That is why Automatic Norton LiveUpdate/Automatic LiveUpdate is in the Norton Security Productsso you do not need to wory about Updating, but, just to make sure all Updates are installed, would run LiveUpdate when you switch your P.C. on from re-starting or Logging On for the day.

Message Edited by Floating_Red on 09-13-2008 12:35 AM

Now on the topic of the outbound firewall. If one wanted one could indicate that every time a program were to access the internet, that the user be asked, right?  But then how would that effect such things as Microsoft updates, NIS updates? I have my comp set to look for and download microsoft updates late into the night


NY1986 wrote:
Now on the topic of the outbound firewall. If one wanted one could indicate that every time a program were to access the internet, that the user be asked, right?  But then how would that effect such things as Microsoft updates, NIS updates? I have my comp set to look for and download microsoft updates late into the night

 

Hello!

     How are you?

 

It will not ask you; check the N.I.S. logs and you will see programs "preparing to access the Internet".

 

You should see that LiveUpdate preparing to access the Internet in your Logs and I am sure, once you install N.I.S. 2009, that "background tasks" would cover Automtic Norton LiveUpdate.

 

Go to the Microsoft Update (www.microsoft.com) Web Page and "review update history" and you should see all the Updates installed.  90% of the Updates will occur on the Second Tuesday of each Month.

Message Edited by Floating_Red on 09-13-2008 12:53 AM

NYC1986,

 

You are missing the beauty of the Norton Firewall. It will automatically set the connection rules based upon a vast library of known programs and by checking their digital signatures.

 

I have 52 programs listed in Program Control for my Firewall; Microsoft programs, Symantec programs, Adobe programs, etc. Each have a different level from "Custom" to full "Allow" based upon the needs of the program.

 

There is no way I would want to set the individual rules for each of these 52 programs. What if I set a rule incorrectly? Then I'd be wondering why a program was having issues.

 

I should mention that if for some reason you disagree with Norton's choice of a particular program's level of access, you can modify any of the rules.

 

With all due respect, I think you have let go of your fears and trust in the Norton Firewall. It has never let me down.

 

 

Thanks Floating_Red

That's the answers I'm looking for!Knowing what the expected behaviors of programs are  compared to the odd behavior that would alert me to possible problems,but I know Norton should detect them before I would even know..Correct???I use the update nearly every day,its funny only recently it has had the pop up box notifying me of when the updates are available?I havn't updated to NIS 2009 yet as I'm waiting to see if all is OK and I wont have any problems that I can't handle as not being tech savvy if I have a problem it would be a mild panic to say the least:smileysurprised:

Thanks to all again

Mo

Hello, mo,

        If the Def.s for Dehaviour Detetion does not catch it, you also have "Suspcious Activity Monitoring" - symantec have re-named this something else which I can't remember off-hand. 

 

This is where manual scanning comes in.  It is important to do manual scanning once or twice-a-week at least because, when I used N.I.S. 2008, the whole Product missed a Virus, and a non-Virus-type Program, and the only way it was Detected was through a Full System Scan.  In once case just recently, Norton had missed "Adware" on my computer, although, N.I.S. 2009 should catch almost anything as it [N.I.S. 2009] has added features and a lot more Updates then previous N.I.S.s, which I think is great.  :)

 

symantec have taken out the "Notify Me" option in N.I.S. 2009.

 

People seem to be having problems at-the-moment with N.I.S. 2009, including myself, so, if you can, I would hold-off from Buying/Installing it on your computer for a few more weeks.

 

What Norton Product are you currently using? 

       

Message Edited by Floating_Red on 09-13-2008 11:01 AM
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Hi Floating_Red

I have NIS 2008 and 200 days left on it,its on the current 15...23.Is there a place on Norton that has screen shots of NIS 2009 so I can at least get used to what it may look like???

Thanks Mo