Suspend NIS?

Is there anyway I can totally suspend temporarily, remove from memory, NIS 2012?  I am having memory issues with the game I am playing, Everquest 2, is constantly crashing.  I would like to check if I am having an issue with RAM.  So I would like to play Everquest 2 completely void of anything in memory by disabling all startup programs with MSCONFIG.

 

ASUS Sabertooth X58 MB

6GB RAM DDR3 (ONLY seeing 3GB)

Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit mode)

Latest BIOS

Intel Core i7, 950 @ 3.07GHz, Socket 1366 LGA

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 w/1MB

 

Thank you in advance!

Is there anyway I can totally suspend temporarily, remove from memory, NIS 2012?  I am having memory issues with the game I am playing, Everquest 2, is constantly crashing.  I would like to check if I am having an issue with RAM.  So I would like to play Everquest 2 completely void of anything in memory by disabling all startup programs with MSCONFIG.

 

ASUS Sabertooth X58 MB

6GB RAM DDR3 (ONLY seeing 3GB)

Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit mode)

Latest BIOS

Intel Core i7, 950 @ 3.07GHz, Socket 1366 LGA

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 w/1MB

 

Thank you in advance!

You don't need to suspend Norton to test your ram. Search Google and download Memtest86+. Put it on a flas drive or a cd. Restart your pc and keep pressing Delete key to get in your bios. Set either the flash drive or DVD drive as the 1st boot device and your hard drive as the 2nd boot device. Now before you run Memtest86+, it's better to let it test each ram stick seperately. Make sure you either wear a anti-static strap or ground yourself against a piece of the bare (non-painted. part of your pc case. Now remove all, but 1 stick of ram and test each ram stick seperately. Also, go to www.cpuid.com and download CPU-z and install it. Open it up and click on SPD. On a piece of paper write down all those numbers with the initials next to each number. Those are the ram timings your ram supports. Now click on the memory  tab in CPU-z. Do any of the timings from the SPD tab match the Memory tab ? If they don't you found your problem and need to go in the bios and set the ram timings to one of CPU-z's SPD tab numbers. There could also be an update for the game that you don't have. Search Google for patches to the game. Also, if you have a video card, make sure it's drivers are up to date. 

Is there a reason he couldn't just run the Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool (Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Windows Memory Diagnostic) ?

This tool runs on a restart BEFORE Windows or anything else loads. It is much easier than removing memory sticks and testing them one by one. I have used it many times, but cannot say for sure whether it will report timing issues, as I have never had such issues, but surely it will not give you a clean bill of health - memory wise, if you had timing issues? I will be ineterested if this test cannot be relied upon 100% of the time. Thanks.

He could, but Memtest86+ is more thorough than Windows Vista's or 7's Memory Diagnostic Tool. Either way, they all run the same way, before Windows boots up. The only difference is he can type Memory in the Start Menu's search box in Vista or 7, click on Memory Diagnostic and it'll schedule it to run at next boot. It's also on the Windows Vista/7 dvd-rom and also on the System Repair Disk, if he made one. With either one you need to test each ram stick seperately to get accurate results. If you only have one stick of ram inserted and you get an error message from either program, that stick is bad. 

Thanks everyone.  Your input is appreciated.

 

I did do the following:

 

Memtest+ = PASSED

Windows Memory Diagnostic = PASSED

6GB Installed - 3GB Usable

MSCONFIG - Disabled all startups

 

I have not run the memory timings yet but do have CPUID CPU-Z utility.

 

I did spot something in the CPUID utility when I did run it. 

Corsair ... TR3X6G1600C9 (3x2GB) - model number of memory installed

Corsair ... CM3X2G1600C9 - Model # of memory CPUID reported.

 

Latest CRITICAL ERROR that I just received is:

 

Application ran out of memory when requesting 5592640 bytes (limit: 2048 MB, current: 888 MB)

 

I do not think you will be able get full access to 6GB of memory on a 32 bit system. 2 to the power of 32 is 4.294 Gigs. I think that 32 bits can only address this many memory locations. The application you are running, seems to need more memory than your system can supply?? Do you know whether it does run on other 32 bit systems? Your application is requesting over 5 GB of memory and that is not available on your system, even though you have 6 GB installed. Have you tried removing 2 GB from your machine, so nothing will "see" the 6 GB and start asking for it? This may not work, because I don't believe your bios will report 6 GB to Windows. So no application should see that you have this much memory installed, but it may be worth giving it a try. Please remember anti-static precautions when handling memory boards.

Google: Everquest application ran out of memory

 

You'll see that it's the game causing the problem, nothing to do with Windows or Norton.

The total amout of memory availible for 32bit windows is 4GB.  Some of that address space is taken up by the memory on your video card.   If you wanted Windows to be able to "see" all 6GB you need to be using 64bit windows.  But don't think you'll be able to use it all with 32bit programs and games.

 

Regardless of how much memory you have installed or availible you normally shouldn't be running out or getting errors because thats what the swap file is for.

 

Dave

 

A 32 bit os can only use 3.5 gbs. of ram. If you have a video card installed in the pc you also need to deduct the amount of ram it has from that same ram. Thus if you have a 512mb. video card the usable ram for the os is 3.0 GBs. If you have a 1.0 gb. video card, it would be 2.5 gbs. usable ram for the os. That's one of the major reasons to use a 64 bit os, if you have a modern cpu(I/E: dual-core, quad-cor, hexa-core, etc.). They can use up to 192 gbs. of ram.

That’s where you are wrong DavidH. 64 bit machines CAN run 32 bit programs. It have a seperate 32 bit program files (called program files (x86). Heck, Internet Explorer is running in 32 bit mode. Try this, open up task manager in a 64 bit system and look for any programs with the symbol *32 affixed to the end. This denotes a 32 bit program.

C:\Program Files (x86) is 32 bit programs. C:\Program Files are 64 bit.


needhelp2234 wrote:
That's where you are wrong DavidH. 64 bit machines CAN run 32 bit programs.

I'm certain that DaveH said that a 32-bit OS cannot use all of the 6GB of RAM installed, not that a 64-bit machine cannot run 32-bit programs.


SendOfJive wrote:

needhelp2234 wrote:
That's where you are wrong DavidH. 64 bit machines CAN run 32 bit programs.

I'm certain that DaveH said that a 32-bit OS cannot use all of the 6GB of RAM installed, not that a 64-bit machine cannot run 32-bit programs.



Oops, must have mis-read

Windows 64 bit can use your 6 GBs. of ram. My pc is Windows 7 Professional x64 and it see's and can use all 16 GBs. of my ram. Just like it can and does run 32 bit programs, as well. What it can't run is 16 bit, Windows 3.1 era software.

Heck, I always recommend the 64 bit version of the Operating System.  It has better features like Kernel Patch Protection, which can [hopefully] protect against rootkits.  The main reasons against 32 bit system is the processor (old Intel/AMD processors like Intel Core Duo does not support 64 bits).