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Is it possible to effectively use norton internet security from a non administrator account on vista?
I want norton to prompt me when things occur and I am logged in as a user, in fact I would like to be able to use norton normally while logged in as a non user.
At the moment I have to log in as an administrator whenever I want to run things that may access the firewall for example - then run everything creating the rules as they norton asks me about them - if im not running as an administrator this does not work because i never get prompted with the messages.
Vista Home Premium
Installed Norton while logged in to admin account as far as I can remember.
I was wondering about this - I cannot find a version number anywhere, it is a free 60 day trial that I received pre installed on the PC.
It seems to be a bundle of Norton Internet Security, Updater, Norton Protection Centre
As an aside I also have Norton 360 version 2.0 still in its wrapping - i wanted to make sure that the trial version played nicely with vista before i broke the seal, so far my experience is that it does not.
So far as NIS is concerned, click on Help & Support / About and give the full version number.
I don't know if any OEMs are putting 2009 on yet -- when did you get your PC? NIS2009 only came out early September 2008.
Norton Internet Security version 15.0.0.60
copyright 1997 - 2007. so I guess it is NIS 2007. Maybe I should just uninstall it an install Norton 360 Version 2.0 if that is completely different. I had assumed I would be running the same antivirus and firewall in both cases.
No, that version number should be NIS 2008 and although much less burdonsome than previous years it is more than 2009 which is remarkable.
Why don't you download the NIS2009 trial version and see for yourself? You get 15 days to try it out and then can purchase a subscription if your NIS 2008 has run out.
Meanwhile we can ask a Norton Staffer whether there is a way to deal with N360 -- where did you buy it and exactly when since Norton still offer a 60 day money back warranty so at the worst you get your money back and pay for NIS 2009 -- but my guess is that if you speak to the Norton Custom Support line they can sort that out for you directly.
Thats interesting - and confusing.
So if I was to install Norton 360 I would wind up with different underlying engines than if I was to install NIS 2009?
What is the difference between them - which is better?
Consider first that N360 is the same generation as NIS2008 and that NIS 2009 is totally and radically different to NIS2008 having been rewritten from scratch to deal, among other things, with valid criticisms (and invalid ones too) that Norton was a resource hog and much too slow.
Impossible to say which is better -- is a Mini-Cooper better or worse than an Aston Martin? <g> Horses for courses.
But in principle the N360 is designed to suit the "fit and forget" user who just wants to install something and let it get on with its job, including simple back ups and trouble shooting. NIS is more focussed on Security and has more user settings to play with.
NIS 2009 was released a month ago .... N360 goes back a year.
So what is confusing?
what was confusing me was that the "aston martin" and the "mini cooper" were both made by the same company and seemed to be marketed as pretty much the same thing.
if N360 included NIS2008 i might have guessed what was going on.
As it stands it sounds like NIS 2009 is probably what I want. Thanks for your input.
dylanf wrote:what was confusing me was that the "aston martin" and the "mini cooper" were both made by the same company and seemed to be marketed as pretty much the same thing.
if N360 included NIS2008 i might have guessed what was going on.
As it stands it sounds like NIS 2009 is probably what I want. Thanks for your input.
N360 version 2.0 and NIS08 share the same DNA, that is, the antivirus engine. N360, however, is a total protection suite, including backup and PC Cleanup features.
You are entitled to a free upgrade to NIS09, which is definity what you want. If you encounter any diffuculiets during or after the upgrade, please post them here.
As for using NIS from the non-admin account, features are limited. You can run LiveUpdate, run scans, and remove any malware the scans pick up. You cannot, however, change settings.
dylanf wrote:what was confusing me was that the "aston martin" and the "mini cooper" were both made by the same company and seemed to be marketed as pretty much the same thing.
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Not in my lifetime!
http://www.astonmartin.com/home
But I think NIS 2009 is certainly the product to try out.
Dynlanf,
Norton AntiVirus and Internet Security for both 2008 and 2009 have the same user/admin behavior for XP and Vista. If the user is assigned to the "Administrators" group they have full access. If they are only in the "Users" group they can launch scans and do some other tasks but cannot change settings. Even in Vista the default user is an Admin (non-elevated) so this works for most people.
In the 2007 product for Vista we designed it to mimic Vista's UAC feature in the way that you describe. Standard Users could change settings if they new the UAC password. This meant that both Users and non-elevated Admins would get a UAC prompt every time they tried to change a feature. Our customers and reviewers hated this behavior, just as they hate the UAC implementation, so we decided to change it back to the older XP style behavior. This was released in a 2007 patch.
You can also use the Norton Settings password support in the product to limit access even to Admin users. It's located in Settings under Miscellaneous.
That's the full explanation.