Was wondering since when does an AV software include a defragger?
Thanks.
Was wondering since when does an AV software include a defragger?
Thanks.
It may be a nice touch but to me its sneaky. Its not on the product discription and IMO should not be in the package. What does an optimizer have to do with an antivirus? Nothing. I already have an optimizer. Symantec you should remove it from the software. This is wrong. Its off focus to main function the software is suppose to provide. NAV already has a rep for being bloated and I feel this is a bad move!
davidm71 wrote:
Its not on the product discription and IMO should not be in the package.
Please see the following web page and look at PC Tune up near the bottom of each product.
http://www.symantec.com/norton/antivirus
You can turn off the optimise feature so that it does not do a full defrag but it will still defrag applications when they are installed.
Thats still a sneak. If not they should change the name to Norton Internet Security and Optimizer 2010 on the box cover. That feature doesn't have anything to do with the price of beans...
Good Morning
I did some research, checking to see if there is a possible conflict with my Diskeeper installation. What I found is that the optimizer is not a defragmentation program. It monitors the system folder or drive ( depends on which o/s your using ) and when defragmentation exceeds 10% or a preset value, it calls the system degragmantation program - what ever the registry show as available. and runs it on the system folder or drive ( o/s determined). Mine runs occasionally and is not causing any problems. Hope this helps.
jwc93061
Personally, I hold the opinion that this 'feature' shouldn't be in NIS or NAV either. There was a big debate about this in the Beta forums when 2010 was in beta.
Recent Windows operating systems, such as Vista and Windows 7, have automatic scheduled defragmentation which runs at a regular enough interval to keep the majority of systems happily fragmentation free and the disk performing at it's best.
I don't believe that an Antivirus program should be defragmenting my system everytime I install something. The name 'Optimiser' is stretching the truth a little too, all it does is calls 'defrag.exe c:', it doesn't do anything special, it runs a defrag....wow!
Yes, it can be disabled, but why on earth is it there in the first place in an Antivirus program? It's a feature which increases the cost of the product as someone has to spend time developing it and it's superfluous to users of Vista and Windows 7.
Remove it I say.
jwc93061 wrote:Good Morning
I did some research, checking to see if there is a possible conflict with my Diskeeper installation. What I found is that the optimizer is not a defragmentation program. It monitors the system folder or drive ( depends on which o/s your using ) and when defragmentation exceeds 10% or a preset value, it calls the system degragmantation program - what ever the registry show as available. and runs it on the system folder or drive ( o/s determined). Mine runs occasionally and is not causing any problems. Hope this helps.
jwc93061
It doesn't, it runs when the system is idle after an install is detected by NIS/NAV and it does a defrag of the C: drive by calling defrag.exe (I'm not sure if Diskeeper replaces that file with it's own launcher though, as I haven't used it for ages.)
It does call the system defrag utility, WHATEVER software that is. If a third party defrag program has registered itself as the system defrag utility (Diskeeper is one that will do this) then this is what gets called to run.
Hi:
Just my two cents...
The Optimize funtion (or function call) shouldn't be in an Internet Security Suite - period.
It is just extra and perhaps confusing eye-candy to an already great product.
All IMHO.
Message Edited by Plankton on 10-20-2009 09:56 AM
I find the Optimizer function a real asset to keeping my computers running at the optimum. I cannot see any reason to avoid it, although that option exists.
Can anyone explain anything detrimental about it, especially as it is usually a background function, unless specifically called?
I think it's great, along with the rest of the features on NIS 2010.
drshlomo.
Hello drshlomo:
I would like to respond...
The Optimizer "function" just clutters the UI and settings.
Any person who doesn't understand the purpose of it will only be confused.
It's overkill, IMHO.
Hope this helps.
Message Edited by Plankton on 10-20-2009 10:17 AM
I think that the Optimizer is a very useful asset to computer housekeeping.
You can also read this thread discussing the Optimizer over here:
http://community.norton.com/norton/board/message?board.id=nis_feedback&thread.id=72493
Hi:
A Network Security program shouldn't be doing simple housekeeping. 
Plankton wrote:Hi:
A Network Security program shouldn't be doing simple housekeeping.
I agree. I also agree that it is overkill. System housekeeping is not in an Antivirus program's remit. Whilst they are wasting the time 'developing' this pointless feature, they are not spending time working on malware detection, or the somewhat flawed File insight system.
They should just change the name of the product to Nis Suite 2010 instead. Might as well throw in Norton utilities and have it make a cup of coffee too! They’re probably trying to market against Ashampoo and Iolo which have a Swiss army knife set of features. I’m just in the opinion that an antivirus should use the least amount of system resources as possible.
Bad for Solid State Disks!
Hi! All,
I must rain on your parade. As a PC Service Tech, I have many clients who use NIS at my recommendation; having the ability to launch a defrag from within the security suite gives them peace of mind and makes things less complicated. Most of them do not understand Norton 360 and it only irritates them that they have to look for the defrag program. So as far as I am concerned Symantec did the right thing in considering these users of their software as well even if it makes some cranky.
Tech83 wrote:Hi! All,
I must rain on your parade. As a PC Service Tech, I have many clients who use NIS at my recommendation; having the ability to launch a defrag from within the security suite gives them peace of mind and makes things less complicated. Most of them do not understand Norton 360 and it only irritates them that they have to look for the defrag program. So as far as I am concerned Symantec did the right thing in considering these users of their software as well even if it makes some cranky.
Unneccessary features being added into a product means that there is less time spent on making the neccessary features work properly, not to mention the extra cost involved. It's pointless being a jack of all trades but yet a master of none. Symantec should stick to it's remit and make Norton the best network security program...not the one with the most 'features'.
If people want a defragmentation program, the Windows defragger is very simple to use and if they can't use that, I'm surprised they can switch the computer on in the first place!!
Message Edited by metalhead82 on 21-10-2009 06:33 AM
Hi! Metalhead82,
I mostly was referring to the elderly and children; if you feel comfortable insulting those age groups fine. To each his own.
It has been pointed out that my prior statement was offensive. My apologizes. Please forgive me. Please note the previous statement has been striked out and should be ignored. It would seem I had a moment of jerkitus; again my apologizes.
Message Edited by Tech83 on 10-21-2009 01:37 AM
Message Edited by Tech83 on 10-21-2009 01:48 AM