I have a pretty frustrating problem with my new Samsung 830 SSD, 256 GB. I tried to make a simple drive copy from my system partition (120 GB) to the ssd (activated but without partition aka unallocated space) and while it seems to run the process always fails at 100% with the error message:
Error EC8F17B3: Cannot complete copying of Mars (D:\) drive. Error EC8F0409: Cannot copy source drive to destination location. Error E0BB014B: Volume not found. (UMI:V-281-3215-6067)
Details: Source: Norton Ghost
After this the SSD disappeared from the diskmanagement of Windows and only a reboot reactivates it. At that stage it is marked as an invalid dynamic drive so it has to be reactivated as basic drive. Rinse, repeat with any setting and it results in the same error.
To see if it is the system drive I also tried it on a data partition (200GB ) with the same results so I'm wondering what is going on. SSD works if initialized as its own drive and benchmarking works (tested with a NTSF partition which I deleted again afterwards) but the copy drive function seems to completely muck it up.
I shouldn't even have the usual problem of the SSD being smaller than the Windows system partition and without anything more specific to go on I don't really have a clue what the problem is that causes Ghost/the SSD to completely disconnect when it's nearly finished.
I know there are tons of threads concerning copy hard drive but sadly the errors aren't quite like mine above.
System:
Windows Home Premium
Intel i7 Quadcore 2.66 GHz
Asus 6PT SE motherboard, BIOS version 908 (recently updated)
12 GB DDR 3 RAM
SATA1: Main drive with Windows partition
SATA 6: SSD
BIOS set to AHCI in storage configuration and JMicron controller.
Can you also upload the screen shot to Photobucket (etc) and post a link as sometimes the screenshot takes a while before we can see it? You can see it but we can't.
I checked if things had something to do with the SSD and so tried to transfer the partition to a spare HDD I had (the second black, unallocated one) but got the same result.
Two things which might cause something:
I had to manually fix the windows install a year back because of a BIOS update that unhinged my partitions in a nasty way. When I rebuild things the System partition became one of the victims which is why it is now a 100 MB partition of a normal volume. Not sure if Norton Ghost can have a problem with this since Windows 7 clearly doesn't and I would expect this more to be a problem when trying to launch Win7 from the copy.
The other is that the two drives might be on my SATA 5 and 6 which might be controlled by a JMicron Sata controller instead of the Intel one.
Does the dynamic drive setting make things difficult for Norton or what do you mean? System is good for a long while now so it doesn't really make life difficult until possibly now. ;) It running good is one of the reasons I loathe to reinstall everything.
The C: drive is the system partition but isn't marked as active (it says: system, start partition, swap file, recovery image)
Disk 0 is general system and data/programs
Disk 1 is encrypted for personal data
Disk 2 is the SSD
Disk 3 is the spare hdd. I usually used them for backups
I have never tired it with dynamic disks because I have never used one.
I looked in the manual a while ago and the only reference I saw was about the setting to make the drive active, it says it is only valid for basic disks.
(I was looking because there is another new post here with a dynamic disk).
I note mangalores has 5 partitions on the Dynamic disk. I tested a Basic disk with 4 primary partitions (including a Win7 partition). I tried to create a fifth partition in the remaining unallocated space, expecting to be told I had the maximum number of primary partitions, but Disk Management created the fifth partition and converted the Basic disk to Dynamic. I restarted the computer and Win7 wouldn't boot. There was just a flashing cursor. I converted the Dynamic disk back to a Basic disk with BIBM and Win7 booted normally.
mangalores, I'm confused. How did you get Win7 onto the Dynamic disk and create 5 partitions?
actually, when I installed that win7 on the ssd I just plugged it in and booted from the dvd - so win7 somehow decided on its own to create a dynamic disc. I didn't choose it as an option because until recently, I didn't know what it is :) Maybe it has something to do with choosing to have the boot stuff on this extra hidden partition, don't know.
See the other thread re image/restore. In your case only create an image of the Win7 partition. We'll deal with the other partitions later.
When you restore the Win7 image to the SSD (as the only drive in the computer) use these options...
Verify recovery point before restore Don't Resize drive after recover (unallocated space only) Partition type : Primary Check for file system errors after recovery Set drive active (for booting OS) Restore original disk signature DON'T Restore master boot record (we don't want the old MBR)
I repeated my test where I created a Dynamic disk with a non booting Win7. An offline image of the Win7 partition was created and the same HD was then wiped with zeroes. The Win7 image was restored but Win7 failed to boot. It still showed a flashing cursor.
BIBM showed the disk was Dynamic.
The File System was changed to NTFS
a Win7 MBR was written
a BCD Edit was performed
Win7 booted normally.
So this looks promising for the two forum members.
In case it helps others, I find BCDEdit a wonder when it comes to modifying, backing up, restoring a BCD without knowing any of the arcane side of it; and it can do some of the things you mention just by saying what you want it to do -- in otherwords it's a very user friendly GUI to the edit function.
It's free for personal use.
Paranthetically, for anyone who multiboots, it has links to useful tools you can download including one called iRebott that I like -- icon in the system tray that you can RMC on and select what you want it to boot to next time -- so if you are working on one of the nondefault OS's you can click and preselect it for the next reboot, say after a Windows Update or other similar and you don't have to watch the boot menu which it skips for that one time. Saves a few seconds too ....
Hugh, Brian is suggesting BootitBM for the BCD edit
EasyBCD is a great tool but it can't be used offline on a non-booting system. I can't even get it to run off a PE disk because it needs .net framework.
Hugh, Brian is suggesting BootitBM for the BCD edit
EasyBCD is a great tool but it can't be used offline on a non-booting system. I can't even get it to run off a PE disk because it needs .net framework.
Dave
Hey Dave,
Doesn't WinPE 4 (Windows 8) have .NET support available? Hmmm, I wonder if Easy BCD would run from it???
Another test. A system with Win7 and a SRP. Converted to a Dynamic disk. Computer restarted and Win7 booted normally (unlike the system without the SRP).
There were only two partitions on the HD, the SRP and Win7 but BIBM showed 4 Dynamic partitions.
1 MB
100 MB SRP
14900 MB Win7
23165 MB of what was unallocated space in Disk Management.
Each "partition" was changed from a 42h; Dynamic file system to 07h: HPFS/NTFS
The 1 MB partition was deleted as it was "false"
The start and end LBAs were checked and found to be correct for the SRP and Win7 partitions.
There was an End LBA warning on the last "partition" but as it is really unallocated space it was deleted.
A Win7 MBR was written to the drive
Win7 booted normally and Disk Management showed a Basic disk with a SRP and Win7 partition.
Yes, I saw the free trial offer but then I'd probably want to buy it ..... and touch wood I don't have the sort of problems (yet) to need to boot to other than one of my OS's even if it's to work on one of the others ....
ISTR There is a portable version of EasyBCD -- I'll check.