How do you disable startup (but NOT uninstall)?

Hey people,

 

I'm hoping it's a simple request. I need to disable NIS 2010 startup as I'm testing to see what is slowing down my system (Win 7 64-bit). My system now takes about 5mins from startup to the loadup of the first program I'm going to use.

 

So as most of you probably would do, I'm testing stopping different programs from loading, timing it, then re-enabling them and testing anothing program.

 

And I really can't find how to do it. Anyone got the knowhow???

I'm also using Win7 64bit and my system takes about 2 minutes from start up to desktop.

I was using Eset Smart Security before switching over and it took about 1 minute.

Not sure why NIS takes so much longer.:smileysad:

Hey people,

 

I'm hoping it's a simple request. I need to disable NIS 2010 startup as I'm testing to see what is slowing down my system (Win 7 64-bit). My system now takes about 5mins from startup to the loadup of the first program I'm going to use.

 

So as most of you probably would do, I'm testing stopping different programs from loading, timing it, then re-enabling them and testing anothing program.

 

And I really can't find how to do it. Anyone got the knowhow???

I looked in msconfig services and obviously had a bout of blindness!

 

Anyway, I uncheck it, click apply, it rechecks itself. Not sure how to get around that.

 

I don't particularly want to uninstall it because I'm just diagnosing.

Try to disable Norton Tamper Protection.

 

And if that not helps, configure msconfig this way:

1. In the System Configuration Utility dialog box, click Selective Startup on the General tab.

2. Click to clear the Load Startup Items check box. 

    Note The Use Original Boot.ini check box is unavailable.

3. Click the Services tab.

4. Click to select the Hide All Microsoft Services check box.

5. Disable the ones you don't want to load, and then click OK.

6. When you are prompted, click Restart.

 

 

To return your computer to a Normal startup mode, follow these steps:

  1. Open msconfig 
  2. On the General tab, click Normal Startup - load all device drivers and services, and then click OK.
  3. When you are prompted, click Restart.

 

Let us know the results.

Thanks. But it didn't work. NIS is the only one that rechecked itself. And this is after I turned off Tamper Protection.

 

This is good for virus protection (being so hard to turn off), bad for me.

Then I have unfortunately no other options to stop it by start-up....

There is no way to prevent NIS from starting without uninstalling it.

 

As a security product we go out of our way to prevent ourselves from being disabled, and if you do manage to partially disable parts of the product, it may lead to system stability issues.

 

If you experience specific compatibility problems please start a new thread and discuss the particular details.

 

If you want to temporarily uninstall, remember to leave the settings behind, i.e. do not do a complete uninstall when asked, this way when you reinstall most settings will be preserved.

 

Regards

Pieter

I have the same problem. The check goes back in the box on msconfig so I can't disable. However, I need to be able to disable it to downlaod and install some things including Windows Update as Microsoft told me to do. Perhaps it's because I have a dial up connection. Microsoft is not the only ones who have told me this. In particular they say to disable the firewall and anti-virus. What should I now do to disable it? Thanks

meikol -

 

As stated by PieterV (in this post in this thread) you cannot disable NIS / NAV 2010 from starting.  You can, however, do a quick uninstall and save the settings, apply the updates and then reinstall.

Thanks for your reply,

 

But in that case I would have to uninstall everytime I needed to download and install Windows Update. That can be once a week in some instances. Surely there has to be a better way. Any more ideas?

 

Thanks

Hello

 

Well, you see, if you can disable the security program, imagine how much easier that makes it for malware to disable it also. If you don't have it start up when you first turn on your computer, you are exposing your computer to the tons of malware that is out there. When you least expect it, that's when malware can enter your computer. With older programs in the past, most used to say to disable your antivirus and firewall to install programs.  Today, they usually recommend to close up other programs running when you are going to install something. Today though, the first thing you have to install unfortunately is your antivirus and firewall programs if you not using a security suite.

Except for major MS SP updates (the last one that I had to do this for was XP SP3) you should not have to stop NIS/NAV 2010 at all.  I receive all MS updates every week / month and do not uninstall or try to disable Norton at all; all installations went in without a hitch.  Even the upgrade from Vista to Win7 was handled fine with Norton running.  The only reason I uninstalled the AV for the SP3 update is that at time all AVs did not allow major OS changes no matter how legitimate the update was.

Hi meikol

Maybe Microsoft advised you to disable your AntiVirus after you download a Update to enable the install of the update.  That makes more sense than Microsoft advising you to disable any Security product for the download portion of an Update install.  When I install a Service Pack or occasionally other apps M$ has advised me to ( as a M$ what if precaution) temporarily disable my AV for the install.  Download what ever you have to....then disconnect from your Network....then rt click the Norton Icon and click Disable Antivirus Auto Protect & Smart Firewall.  I doubt you will really need to disable the FW.   After Update install...Enable AV Auto Protect (and FW) and connect to your Network.  Your Norton product should be active for the download....and may be temporarily disabled (if you are disconnected) for the install.  Please explain the Update that M$ advised you to disable AV & FW for download & install. 

Is it possible you misunderstood M$....

No disrespect.... Please consider all contributions to this thread.

Welcome to the Community

bjm_

 

 


meikol wrote:

Thanks for your reply,

 

But in that case I would have to uninstall everytime I needed to download and install Windows Update. That can be once a week in some instances. Surely there has to be a better way. Any more ideas?

 

Thanks


 

 

It is unusual for Microsoft to recommend that a security product be disabled in order to run Windows Update.

Can you please provide more details about this statement from Microsoft?

 

In general there is no need to disable any part of NIS during software installation.

In fact, one may argue that during the installation of new software it is critical to have all protection enabled.

 

As I previously asked in this thread, if there is a particular incompatibility you are experiencing, please discuss that in a dedicated thread.

 

Regards

Pieter

Hi dbrisendine and bjm_,

 

Whole heartedly agree! I am a software engineer and have never once in 20 years had to uninstall my AV software to install Windows updates, including SP's.

 

Meikol, the main thing as bjm_ stated is that if you disable auto-protect while installing the actual update make sure you are disconnected from the Internet first. You do NOT want to be online for even a second with your AV protection disabled.

 

Allen

I had to delay installing SP3 for XP because I couldn't turn off Norton AV.

I really absolutly did not want to install a service pack with it running.

 

So in that situation, the inability to turn it off caused a prolong security risk.

No offence but I think it's silly to have to uninstall it to temporarily turn it off and then have to re-install it and go through all the updates.

I understand that you can't make it easy to turn off or any virus or malware could do the same, but there has to be some way you could make it so a human being sitting at the computer can turn it off if they so desire to do so.

 

Dave

 

Hi DaveH

What do you mean by > I couldn't turn off Norton AV.

Rt Click the taskbar Icon (or from the UI) Disable Antivirus Auto-Protect....

You have now turned off Norton AV.....as long as you disconnect from your Network....you can turn off Norton AV.

Please explain why this is not a viable option.

 

bjm_

 

 


DaveH wrote:
I understand that you can't make it easy to turn off or any virus or malware could do the same, but there has to be some way you could make it so a human being sitting at the computer can turn it off if they so desire to do so.

 

Right-click the Norton icon in the system tray and select "Disable Antivirus Auto-Protect" from the context menu.  You will be given several options for chosing a duration.  This is all that is necessary, and as others have said it is only needed for service packs and other major updates to the operating system - not for normal updates or application installations.  The firewall should never be disabled when you are online, unless there is a hardware firewall or router that protects the PC from directly facing the internet.

 

Hi, thanks for your reply,

 

I downloaded and installed an update once and it stopped me from being able to do a system restore. I could only do a system restore before the update (SP1) was installed so I figured it had something to do with that.

 

 I have a dial-up connection so I thought it could have been corrupted durring download. I called Microsoft and talked to a guy from Windows Update and he said they recomend disabling the firewall first. Also about a month ago a software vendor reccomended turning of anti-virus durring download and installation.