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I agree that if Symantec found it important, it would have something done with it by now.  It has also been mentioned that the kudos leader board on the forum main page is gone, which if important to Symantec would have been replaced.  Perhaps it is an indication that it should not be important to us either.

 

A year ago, it seems to me that the forum was much more cohesive, friendly, mutually supportive than it is now.  We have all seen posters competing like maniacs for kudos.  I think it is best not to get caught up in that. Maybe it's time to get back to basics. Heresy, I know, but just my humble opinion. :smileywink:

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delphinium wrote:

A year ago, it seems to me that the forum was much more cohesive, friendly, mutually supportive than it is now.  We have all seen posters competing like maniacs for kudos.  I think it is best not to get caught up in that. Maybe it's time to get back to basics. Heresy, I know, but just my humble opinion. :smileywink:

I heartily agree with you delphinium - well said.

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A year ago, it seems to me that the forum was much more cohesive, friendly, mutually supportive than it is now.

 

 

I don't think you have to go back that far, it seems to me that the forum is much different now than it was 6 months ago, although I don't understand why. I don't mean different in a good way either, it was much better then than now.

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Hi Delph,

 

I know there are exceptions but I think we still have a good team over all of people just wanting to help other people. In the end, solving the problem for the end user is what really matters and makes it all worth it. I get a lot of satisfaction when a user walks away happy that his/her problem has been solved and that should leave a good feeling for all of us. If we did not get a good feeling from this we would not be here.

 

At the same time there is nothing wrong with a little recognition because we do work hard. Symantec came up with the concept of kudos and made it part of the rating system so the expectation is that it should be done in a way that people know what it is for.

 

Kudos should either be given freely or not at all but the choice to do so or not is not there if people don't even know of its existence in the first place.

 

My two cents worth. :smileywink:

 

Allen

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I totally agree with you, AllenM.

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AllenM,

 

I have got to say that sometimes it amazes me that some two cents are worth more than gold while others ....  Please contribute your's anytime.  Thanks.

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I agree with the comments about the Kudos button - that it seems very out of place and doesn't really indicate its purpose. I don't agree that, as AllenM stated, "the Kudos button simply does not work and this problem is so easily solved". The kudos button *does* work (click it and see!) and this problem is hardly easily solved. Not only does it require input from many people behind the scenes, it also requires a balancing of preferences from our key forum contributors (YOU).

 

That being said, "Fixing Kudos" will be my next task. There were a few other formatting issues and speed issues to deal with, but after reviewing these posts, it's clear that many of you see this as a higher priority. Originally, I was waiting for some better graphics to be included. However, as most of you know, things get delayed from time-to-time. I am prepared to get this issue resolved and will do my best to resolve it quickly.

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Hi Tony,

 

I did not mean any disrespect towards you or anyone else with my statements and I apologize if it came across that way.

 

For the record, when I said the Kudos did not work, I did not mean functionally. That was meant strictly from the perspective of a user knowing that the button was there and its purpose. I also understand that you need a lot of feedback before implementing changes so the statement about being "easy" was only referring to the actual modification of the HTML code to add a title to the button and nothing else.

 

So again, sorry if I came across in a bad way it was not my intent. I will admit it has been frustrating to a degree but that frustration is not directed "at" anyone.

 

And thanks for the update.

 

Allen

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AllenM

 

No need to apologise - you've been quoted 'out of context' - those reading should re-read your full post here to clarify.

 

Tony_Weiss wrote:

I agree with the comments about the Kudos button - that it seems very out of place and doesn't really indicate its purpose. I don't agree that, as AllenM stated, "the Kudos button simply does not work and this problem is so easily solved". The kudos button *does* work (click it and see!) and this problem is hardly easily solved. Not only does it require input from many people behind the scenes, it also requires a balancing of preferences from our key forum contributors (YOU).

 

That depends on the complexity of your intended solution - Phil_D offered an innovative solution here that proved to be effective for those that used it. Please clarify the official 'Norton" solution that will universally address this issue.

 

delphinium wrote:

I agree that if Symantec found it important, it would have something done with it by now.  It has also been mentioned that the kudos leader board on the forum main page is gone, which if important to Symantec would have been replaced.  Perhaps it is an indication that it should not be important to us either.

 

A year ago, it seems to me that the forum was much more cohesive, friendly, mutually supportive than it is now.  We have all seen posters competing like maniacs for kudos.  I think it is best not to get caught up in that. Maybe it's time to get back to basics. Heresy, I know, but just my humble opinion. :smileywink:

The Kudos Leader Board is still there, as per this  link.

 

 

delphinium wrote:

 A year ago, it seems to me that the forum was much more cohesive, friendly, mutually supportive than it is now. 

Turbo wrote:

A year ago, it seems to me that the forum was much more cohesive, friendly, mutually supportive than it is now.

 

 

I don't think you have to go back that far, it seems to me that the forum is much different now than it was 6 months ago, although I don't understand why. I don't mean different in a good way either, it was much better then than now.

The simmering frustration evident in the recent posts stems directly from Norton's implementation of LiveUpdate. A subject to be discussed in another thread however...

 

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elsewhere wrote:

 

delphinium wrote:

I agree that if Symantec found it important, it would have something done with it by now.  It has also been mentioned that the kudos leader board on the forum main page is gone, which if important to Symantec would have been replaced.  Perhaps it is an indication that it should not be important to us either.

 

A year ago, it seems to me that the forum was much more cohesive, friendly, mutually supportive than it is now.  We have all seen posters competing like maniacs for kudos.  I think it is best not to get caught up in that. Maybe it's time to get back to basics. Heresy, I know, but just my humble opinion. :smileywink:

The Kudos Leader Board is still there, as per this  link.

 

 

 

The leaderboard in your link only shows kudos received in the NIS/NAV section of the forum. The leaderboard referenced by delphinium showed an aggregate of kudos received from all sections of the forum, and it is, as delphinium said, gone.

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Turbo wrote:

 

The leaderboard in your link only shows kudos received in the NIS/NAV section of the forum. The leaderboard referenced by delphinium showed an aggregate of kudos received from all sections of the forum, and it is, as delphinium said, gone.

Is this the leaderboard that you are referring to?

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Yes, but is that the only way to access it, by clicking the link in Yaso's post? It would be much more convenient if they put it back where it was, on the main forum page.

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Hi Turbo,

 

Yes, it seems to be the only way to get to the Kudos Leaderboard - at least in the US forum. The German and French forums have the main Kudos Leaderboard on the main page. It's a pity that the US forum no longer displays it. In fact, I was only able to find the link to the Kudos Leaderboard in the US forum after copying part of the link leading to the Kudos Leaderboard in the German forum and then combining it with a chunk of URL from the US forum ;-)

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elsewhere, thanks for the link to Yaso's post.

 

Yaso, thanks for putting that link together (very resourceful) and for the additional info.

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Hi Yaso,

 

Care to do a translation of your latest signature line before you change it yet again? :smileywink:

 

And by the way I still say my favorite signature line of yours was the one that says "I hate mosquitoes"! :smileyhappy:

 

Allen

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AllenM wrote:

Hi Yaso,

 

Care to do a translation of your latest signature line before you change it yet again? :smileywink:

 

 

It leads to a malicious website!!  The first link returned in a Google search is this:

 

Signature.JPG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seventy computer threats.  Oh, Yaso....:smileysurprised::smileyvery-happy:

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Yaso, you should be truly ashamed! :smileysurprised: How could you possibly link to a website with so many computer threats? :smileywink:

 

Well my friend, I guess you have to change your sig line sooner rather than later, eh? :smileysurprised:

 

Allen

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Actually, I copied those lines from a book...:smileyvery-happy:

 

I have tried to translate them:

 

Flieg, Vogel, schnarr/Dein Lied im Wüstenvogel-Ton! -/Versteck, du Narr,/Dein blutend Herz in Eis und Hohn!
-F. Nietzsche, "Vereinsamt"

 

My translation:

Fly, bird, rasp/Your song in the tone [or melody] of the desert bird! -/Hide, you fool,/Your bleeding heart in ice and mockery!

F- Nietzsche, "Lonely [or Forsaken]"

 

Just so that everyone knows what this is all about: I am always changing my forum signature, and I was using the lines above as my current signature :-)

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Logged in this morning and noticed that the kudos button has been updated :-)

 

updated_Kudos_button.png

 

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Tony_Weiss wrote:

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It also requires a balancing of preferences from our key forum contributors (YOU).

 

That being said, "Fixing Kudos" will be my next task. There were a few other formatting issues and speed issues to deal with, but after reviewing these posts, it's clear that many of you see this as a higher priority. Originally, I was waiting for some better graphics to be included. However, as most of you know, things get delayed from time-to-time. I am prepared to get this issue resolved and will do my best to resolve it quickly.

Great turnaround, Tony, I see you weren't joking when you said that you'd make resolving this issue a priority! :smileywink:

 

In terms of the positioning of the label, I'd prefer it to be below the graphic. This leaves enough 'white space' to differentiate the Kudos feature from the User's details section listed above it. I'd also like to see the label read 'Give Kudos' as this highlights that this is an interactive feature, similar in context to the word 'Vote' used by other sites that use a similar feature to this.

 

That said, and pending your advice on how hard it may be to implement, I really think you should engage the posters in this thread to determine the ideal solution as there are clearly a number of good ideas here on how to best present the Kudos feature.