Error "3039,1"

Hi, i just started to get this error 3039,1 message in the last few days.  I have the Norton AntiVirus 2004 cd and i have since upgraded online to the 2008 and now 2009. Version 16.0.0.125.   I have tried everything from the "Fix Now" button, to the one click help and running the free version of Malwarebytes antivirus and PC Tools Spyware Doctor and i have also done a complete uninstall and reinstall of the Norton AntiVirus.   Here is my logfile from the GMER i just ran.   Hope someone can help and i really don't want to do a hard drive format.   Thanks,

brian


clubman15 wrote:

Hi, i just started to get this error 3039,1 message in the last few days.  I have the Norton AntiVirus 2004 cd and i have since upgraded online to the 2008 and now 2009. Version 16.0.0.125.   I have tried everything from the "Fix Now" button, to the one click help and running the free version of Malwarebytes antivirus and PC Tools Spyware Doctor and i have also done a complete uninstall and reinstall of the Norton AntiVirus.   Here is my logfile from the GMER i just ran.   Hope someone can help and i really don't want to do a hard drive format.   Thanks,

brian


There are too many posts here for me to read back over all of them and figure out what has been tried by each poster here. So if I suggest something you have already tried, I apologize in advance.

 

First, your installation environment.

     This means everything on your computer at the moment you install a product.

As far as NIS is concerned, you should have no other active security software.  You should be using Windows Defender.  You shouldn't have alternative AV or Firewall producs.  You shouldn't be running versions of Adaware or Spybot Search & Destroy.  For some of these products, it is enough that they not be enabled.  For other products, they shouldn't even be installed on your machine even if you have disabled them (for example, other security suites like McAfee).  For some products, you need to be careful you have disabled all components of that product (for example, Teatimer of Spybot Search & Destroy).  And for some products, there are folders and registry entries that are left behind when you uninstall the product (this is true for the majority of security suites).

    It also is important that you run the most up-to-date version of that product.  Out-of-date and no-longer-supported products can be doing unseen damage to your computer.  Not only might it be the cause of a poor installation, it might also be causing poor system performance in general, causing frequent or occasional crashes, and opening a route for malware infestation!

 

    To improve your installation environment, there are some specific and general advice.

     Specific:  For each particular product you have uninstalled, check their website and see if they offer a clean-up tool for that product.  If they do, download it and run it.

     General:   Visit www.secunia.com and download their free personal software inspector.  It will scan your software and tell you what is out-of-date and what is no longer supported.  For most products, it will direct you to the manufacturer's update links and/or it will help you get the replacement product.  Secunia is non-invasive and will do nothing to your system.  You can run it yourself or you can set it to run regularly in the background.  It is one of the best computer maintenance tools out there.

             If you are comfortable using registry cleaners, visit www.ccleaner.com and download their free computer cleaner, ccleaner.  The product is a fairly conservative cleaner that requires almost no interaction from the user.  Make sure you allow it to make back-ups when it runs and it will perform a humdinger of a cleanup.  If you are concerned about registry cleaners, an even more conservative product is Symantec's Systemwork's component, Windoctor.  If you are experienced problems with installing new products, or computer crashes, it is probably the best bet for improving things after updating all computer products.  It is also the best bet for cleaning up after uninstalling a product that doesn't uninstall well.

 

Second, your method of installation.

     It is always best to do a clean install.  This usually means a perfect uninstallation of a product's previous installation.  Sometimes, the process is built into the new version's installation process.  Unfortunately, this uninstallation depends a lot on how well the previous product was installed.  If the previous product was mis-installed, it may end up being mis-uninstalled!.  So with something like Norton products, it's good to use their free removal tool available from their website.  This is an aggressive application that removes almost every registry entry and link and file and folder related to Norton products.  You do need to be aware that if you use this,it will remove all Norton products, not just NIS or NAV.  There is a third level of cleanup:  Doing a deep search (system and hidden files), find and remove all Norton folders that you have admin rights to.

     NIS can have hiccups during installation.  Usually these hiccups take the form of long, invisible background behavior (this will be minimalized if you follow the advice in the previous paragraph) and doesn't indicate any problems -- but it does require patience on the part of the user.  For my part, when an installation appears to be locked up, I just walk away, have a snack or read a chapter or do a Sudoku, and come back much later to see if progress has been made.  Patience is the secret here; forcing an issue (by shutting down in midstream, rebooting, starting over, even launching other applications) can produce a major installation flaw.

     Reboots fix a lot, even when you are not asked to do so.  In fact, it's even good to reboot right before you initialize an installation (there might be a MS update lurking in the wings waiting for that reboot to finish its own installation).  After installing NIS or NAV, reboot at least once.  If the reboot is a required one by the installer, then wait a long time after getting back to the desktop for the installation to complete -- again, patience is key.  Required reboots mean that you can expect program notifications from the product you have installed, notifications about status and anything you might need to do next.

     After installation completion, if you get warning notices, the best first response is to choose the most conservative response, which is usually one of ignoring the warning (if that is an option) or just continuing.  Stay away from the FIX ME options on the first round -- instead, at the first sensible opportunity, reboot and see if that has fixed things.

 

Third, avoid tinkering.

     If after installation, a product does not work right, the best next step is to simply uninstall and reinstall following suggestions about this routine above.  Sometimes, it takes two shots at an installation after a misbehaving product has been uninstalled.  But do not tinker with the settings or the registry or your computer.  This simply creates a more complicated system environment; and makes it harder for other people to help you.

     If none of the above solves your problem, it's time to ask for help from others.  Start with customer service or these boards, but stay away from well-meaning people who you have no other reason to trust (like your significant other's cousin who was good at gaming on computers back in jurnior high school).

 

 

 

Good luck.

Hi, this error message is now affecting me.  I have the Norton Anti-Virus 2004 cd that i bought, then i bought the upgrade on-line to Norton Anti-virus 2008, when i renewed again on-line it upgraded me to 2009.  I've been running this one now for a bit, i have 286 days remaining and this Error 3039,1 message has just started to show up in the last few days.  I've tried erverything, from the Fix Now button to the one click help and i have even uninstalled everything and installed it all right from the beginning with my 2004 disc, to 2008 and now 2009.  I have run the free Malwarebytes program too.  I don't have Norton 360 or Norton 2010 Beta.  I find it very strange that i am now all of a sudden getting this error message.

I am running Windows XP.  The advanced protection slider is off and won't let me turn it on and the Sonar Advanced Protection slide is off and i can't turn it on either. And the red X is on in the task barall the time now.   I get the real live updates all the time, would one of the updates have caused this?

brian

Hi 

 

I attempted to repair MDAC I still have a couple of files with mismatched versions:

 

MSADCE.DLL expected version 2.81.1132 Version 2.81.3002

msxml3.dll expected version 8.90.1101 Version 8.100.1048

 

Can I ignore this, and try something else?

If not, how do I correct these files?

 

Thanks,

 

Murray

Message Edited by murray654 on 09-01-2009 09:56 AM

"Build 111" : 3039,1 Error

 

build 111??? sounds like a beta

 

Quads 

Today I found this thread....and it would seem that Norton would rather charge me and however many people the $99.00 online specal to fix the problem.

 

So...let me get this right...over a year ago...you guys find it.  You guys tell them.  You guys work around it.  You guys try to help others fix it.

 

They...the Norton guys... sell me an upgrade that is not ready...9 months into the year.  It has a major flaw...and to fix it they want me to pay them another hundred bucks?

 

Hmmmm.....NO!  They offered to fix my system remotely...but I had to pay for that pleasure.  Is this called built in profit agenda?  I mean, it's not a new problem and since I downloaded the new software directly from Norton/Symantic 2 DAYS AGO...the problem should not exist!

 

Off rant!

Message Edited by themanager on 09-07-2009 05:57 PM

i just upgraded to windows 7 on my desktop & laptop computers, and my copy of NIS 07 was not compatible, so norton gave me a free "upgrade" to NIS 09.  i thought that was great, until i started getting this exact same error about 5-10 min after booting up windows (on both computers).  i've run all of the solutions suggested in this thread, but nothing has worked.

 

i don't understand how, almost a year after the issue was documented, the problem still exists and there has still been no solution offered by symantec.

 

please, has there been any update in the status of a patch for this problem?  tim lopez?  any input?  thanks,

 

-ted


F4LL0U7 wrote:

i just upgraded to windows 7 on my desktop & laptop computers, and my copy of NIS 07 was not compatible, so norton gave me a free "upgrade" to NIS 09.  i thought that was great, until i started getting this exact same error about 5-10 min after booting up windows (on both computers).  i've run all of the solutions suggested in this thread, but nothing has worked.

 

i don't understand how, almost a year after the issue was documented, the problem still exists and there has still been no solution offered by symantec.

 

please, has there been any update in the status of a patch for this problem?  tim lopez?  any input?  thanks,

 

-ted


To the best of my knowledge, NIS 2009 is not yet compatible with win 7.  Have you considered downloading and trying the beta of NIS2010 available from Norton Beta.

 

If you do go this route, make sure you do a clean uninstall of your previous beta products.  That means:

1.  Use ADD/REMOVE to uninstall NIS 2009.

2.  Delete any hidden/system folders with Norton in its name.

3.  Run a good win7 compatible registry cleaner (if you are comfortable with registry cleaners).

4.  Reboot.

 

NIS2010 should go public well within the current beta period.  When it does you will be eligible for a free upgrade to that as long as you NIS2009 subscription has not expired.  Please note that your activation key for the retail product is different from that for the beta product and so will your Norton accounts be, even if you use the same email address.

 

Also, do this soon as they will be closing the beta test any moment now.

thanks for the reply mijcar.  well, no betas were available, so it looks like i missed it.  when the 2010 version comes out, will i just be able to download the trial version and use my current product key with it?  i'm not sure how this whole upgrade process works.

 

i wasn't aware that the 2009 version wasn't compatible with windows 7.  in fact, norton prompted me to install the 2009 version specifically because it was compatible with win7, and the 2007 version (which i used with vista) was not compatible.  it still amazes me that this thread is almost a year old, and there's still no solution to the problem, besides "wait for the 2010 version."


F4LL0U7 wrote:

thanks for the reply mijcar.  well, no betas were available, so it looks like i missed it.  when the 2010 version comes out, will i just be able to download the trial version and use my current product key with it?  i'm not sure how this whole upgrade process works.

 

i wasn't aware that the 2009 version wasn't compatible with windows 7.  in fact, norton prompted me to install the 2009 version specifically because it was compatible with win7, and the 2007 version (which i used with vista) was not compatible.  it still amazes me that this thread is almost a year old, and there's still no solution to the problem, besides "wait for the 2010 version."


Sorry about that.  Yes, as long as your 2009 subscription has not expired, you will be able to use that activation key to move up to 2010.  Please use the same uninstall strategy.  Since beta is now closed, the product should be available any day.  You might check this site (upgrade) on a regular basis to see if it's out.

 

 


This 3039,1 error has been around awhile.  However, it has not been one of those errors that hits everyone, not even that many users.  I've seen many people appear here with the assumption that it was a Symantec bug only to find that the real problem was a third-party software either on their machine or not properly uninstalled and removed from their machine.

 

 

I don't work for Symantec (I am only a volunteer), so I don't know the issue in depth; but I have seem numerous attempts at a resolution based on a single-cause theory -- none of these have worked.  Fixes have almost always entailed finding out what was going on with the user's machine.

 

In a situation like this, given the substantial and significant changes in win7 and the large amount of old near-out-of-date software most of us are going to be trying to keep, I would recommend at some early point in the transition:

1.  backing up ALL important data (financial, medical, letters, documents, spreadsheets, databases, media of all kind) to an external location.

2.  reformating my harddrive and installing win7 from scratch.

3.  installing ONLY essential drivers.

4.  running windows update as much as necessary

5.  installing my security suite

6.  installing ONLY recent Microsoft products that are designated win7 compatible and updating them as much as necessary

7.  scanning my backed up data on the external location

8.  restoring my backed up data to the proper location on my machine

9.  then installing the rest of my applications, one at a time, rebooting after each installation or two.

 

If something crashes, I would want it to be very clear in what configuration that crash occurred.

 

There will be a community board for the 2010 upgraded product.  I will hope to see you there, helping other (I hope) instead of needing it yourself.

 

Iam having the same problem . Tried every possible method, nothing worked. Cant get what I paid for.

I manually turned advanced protection on. Does this mean its working. Because norton still says “at risk”

Good morning all.

 

This morning I clicked on MORTON ACCOUNT.  I then clicked on Upgrade on the left side small box.  This let me upgrade to Norton Antivirus 2010 for free.  You must have days remaining until your Norton Antivirus 2009 expires.  I do not have the Error 3039.1 problem with Norton Antivirus 2010.  Just FYI.

 

Baldy


Baldy wrote:

Good morning all.

 

This morning I clicked on MORTON ACCOUNT.  I then clicked on Upgrade on the left side small box.  This let me upgrade to Norton Antivirus 2010 for free.  You must have days remaining until your Norton Antivirus 2009 expires.  I do not have the Error 3039.1 problem with Norton Antivirus 2010.  Just FYI.

 

Baldy


 

Hi Baldy

 

Thanks for letting us know that the problem has been resolved with the new release.

thanks for the tip!  i just downloaded the 81mb installer at work, and i’ll be installing it on both of my machines at home tonight.  i’ll be sure to post any issues i might have (hopefully there will be none!).

so far so good with 2010!

I FOUND A SOLUTION WHICH HAS WORKED FOR ME.

 

when norton starts giving the error. Turn advanced protection on manually and password protect settrings then restart the computer. So far so good but this makes me think there might be a common virus which turns these setting off.


mcbilal wrote:

I FOUND A SOLUTION WHICH HAS WORKED FOR ME.

 

when norton starts giving the error. Turn advanced protection on manually and password protect settrings then restart the computer. So far so good but this makes me think there might be a common virus which turns these setting off.


That's absolutely intriguing.  Please keep us informed as to whether or not it keeps working for you.

 

I'd also like to know if anyone else suffering this problem can fix it with this action?

i tried that too, but it never worked for me.  the error would just come back when i rebooted.  the only thing that worked for me was upgrading to the 2010 version.

ohh no unfortunately my solution worked for a day. The error just popped up as of now... Also tempar protection keeps turning of too...

 

 

 

the is no point using norton under these circumstances right?