Thread for version 24.xx issues and suggestions

Bonjour,

Sans doute avez-vous raison concernant la fermeture de ce fil.

Personnellement, je ne pense pas que la version actuelle de Norton récupérera les “fonctionnalités retirées”.

Je me trompe peut-être, mais je pense même que le produit “Norton” pourrait disparaître au profit d’Avast, étant donné qu’aujourd’hui Norton n’est rien d’autre que le “clone” d’Avast. Selon moi, garder plusieurs produits de marques différentes mais embarquant les mêmes technologies, n’a pas beaucoup de sens.

Bien entendu, cela n’est que mon avis personnel.

@Gribouille342 Thanks for the feedback. Lets hear from the others posting here regarding closing the thread. I believe that is prudent before doing so.

SA

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I would leave it for now, for a little while. It was so incredibly helpful for me to read through it, and see that other people were having the same problems that I was with the new updates. SO helpful! And I didn’t find it till later than some people. And there are still many people for whom the new updates are still rolling out to, and they might need time to come take a look to see if others are having issues. I would leave the thread up for that reason alone, but also because there is so much helpful information in here for people to read that could aid them. And also because Norton needs to see that people are still unhappy with the new updates. I was on the phone with customer service who claimed that everyone loved the new update and no one was having any major problems. I pointed out this thread and they had no idea about it. For that reason as well, this thread needs to remain for a while. There are lots of people having problems and are frustrated, and this thread is the proof and, IF NORTON IS ACTUALLY READING IT WITH AN OPEN MIND, should also be a helpful resource for Norton to see what people are unhappy about and where they need to improve.

I also wanted to thank everyone on this thread who posted helpful tips, and information and tried to problem shoot issues, even other people’s issues. It has been very informative and helpful, and thank you for taking the time to create this thread and try to help so many people. And especially for those who tried to answer my questions, I really appreciate it. I know that I could pay extra on top of the high price of Norton 360 deluxe to get the anti-tracker program, but that seemed disingenuous to me to charge for something that should be (and used to be) part of my subscription, and of course, that wasn’t my only issue with the new upgrade. And I don’t think Norton has incentive to change unless people actually leave (not just post their issues here), so I left and went to BitDefender. I like it a lot so far, a lot less upselling, easier interface (closer to how norton used to be), other features I like, fixes a lot of my issues with the new Norton upgrade and reminds me of what I used to like about Norton, and they do have a way through the program to delete tracking cookies (though it is harder to find and not advertised as well) which was important for me, to have an alternative to deleting through the browser. I like their add-ons too. I paid for the middle option which gives unlimited VPN and I’m pretty happy with BitDefender. . I hope that Norton takes a few pages out of their book, what they are doing WELL, and incorporates them to improve Norton and their newest upgrade to make it more user friendly.

Agreed. Sometimes the best message you can send is to walk away, so that a deluge of customers leaving to go to a competitor helps give the impetus needed for a company to LISTEN and to CHANGE. I have my fingers crossed for both.

This new upgrade changed the game for me, and a lot of others, but I do still hope that this thread remains open so that hopefully Norton can take advice from it to improve, and that other people can find it when they are looking to see if anyone else is having the same issues that they are. If the thread is closed and disappears, then people looking for others in the same boat will think that no one else is having issues, just like customer service is apparently telling everyone who chats/calls in, and then certainly nothing will change. And it is important to know that there are MANY people who are unhappy, frustrated, having issues (a variety of them) and are hoping for change and improvement. That is important, in my opinion … for a while longer at least. It was really very helpful for me. Thank you!

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@CptCat Thank you as well for the feedback as well. Closing the thread would just lock it and leave it readable, no new posts could be posted. Leaving it live would be in the best interest of new customers who are just now seeing issues, I hadn’t forgotten that side of things.

I have a fourth device on 22.24.8.36 now and its showing in my account as it should along with the other three are showing correctly as well. I wanted to update it to 24.xx, but, am still reserved about doing so for one specific reason. 24.xx totally screwed up my account, three version of Norton showing there and three different versions on my devices. This was the second time I had that issue in a years time. All former subs are now expired and removed from the devices they were on. I’d like things to stay that way vice having to fiddle with it a third time. I do want to be on the latest version to help though. Just not sure how much help we can provide given its been going on four months since 24.xx was released. Functionality hasn’t returned like we expect it would, unfortunately, being marketing driven and other factors its not going to return.

SA

I get that. I do think there are still a lot of people who are going to be shifted over to the new upgrades for a while, especially when their subscriptions are renewed in the next while, and it might take a while, but there will still be people coming to look for answers, with questions, and looking for other people having the same issues. This thread was very helpful to me and I hope it would be for others too. Also, with the new release updates to the upgrade, there will likely be NEW issues cropping up that might have people asking new questions. Just a thought, and my two cents :slight_smile:

Also, I agree that they are trying to pretend that there is no problem with the upgrade, that was my experience after having dealt with customer service a few times, in a few ways. And this thread, especially if it is not backdated, but continues to have people posting their issues, is the best place to direct those customer service agents to when they claim that there are no major issues or complaints.

But I also agree with you that they don’t seem to be listening or changing things that are important to their customers, loyal long-term customers, which is why it is also important to sometimes walk away and go elsewhere. Financial incentive if people are leaving is a good motivator to take another look at this thread and find out why people are leaving, and what they should be focusing on changing in order to get them back. But sometimes just talking isn’t enough, and leaving is important. If companies are only valuing their bottom line, then that’s where we have to make our voices heard. But I do hope that Norton is better than that, and is still reading this thread, and has some changes in the works. I like BitDefender and am glad I moved … for this year especially, as changes will likely take a while … but if enough people move elsewhere, then Norton will have incentive to compete and hopefully will start to make some changes on the things mentioned in this thread.

But I did want to say thank you for posting the thread in the first place, I’m so glad to have found it and be able to ask some questions and get some answers from people who are more knowledgeable about the technicalities of the program than I am. Thank you for all the time you, and others, have put into this thread and helping people navigate this unfortunate and unpopular upgrade. It has been very much appreciated, and I just wanted to post that again (in case you do end up closing the thread).

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Trying to keep customers from abandoning Norton was the specific purpose of this thread when it was created. Leaving the thread live is what we will do going forward. Thanks for the input as well. I’ve always been one to help, no matter what. Its hard to do that when those who need to listen most don’t.

SA

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That was my primary motivation in seeking out this thread too, and reading it. That was what my goal was as well … after months of inaction, I may have changed my mind, but that WAS my purpose for finding this, and I know that was that goal of the thread too … to point out issues that people were having so that Norton could be made aware of them and fix them. I still hope that it happens!

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@SoulAsylum and @CptCat J’ai bien pris connaissance de vos commentaires que je trouve très pertinents. Sachez que je partage globalement vos avis respectifs.

Personnellement, j’ai essayé plusieurs solutions concurrentes dont Bitdefender qui ne me convient pas car il ne répond pas à mes attentes. En effet, je crois que chaque utilisateur a des besoins et des attentes propres. Je précise que je ne suis pas contre le changement et l’évolution des choses car pour moi, cela fait partie de la vie. En revanche, je veux rester maître de mon ordinateur. Je paye mon abonnement Norton pour qu’il protège ma machine et je ne veux pas que Norton m’alerte sur un soi-disant pilote obsolète afin de me pousser à acheter un abonnement supplémentaire dont je ne veux pas ! Je comprends et j’accepte parfaitement la démarche de “la suite de sécurité tout-en-un” mais GenDigital ne dois pas l’imposer à tous ses clients. Ou bien alors, ils devraient proposer à côté des produits actuels (comme le fait Bitdefender), une véritable solution de sécurité “tout-en-un” regroupant toutes les protections additionnelles pour les clients qui le souhaite.

Selon moi, les clients que nous sommes devons garder la liberté de choisir le produit qui nous convient le mieux.

A titre purement informatif j’envisage d’opter pour McAfee ou Eset si Norton ne s’améliore pas dans les prochains mois.

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@SoulAsylum A progress (regress?) report. I was feeling pretty good after installing 22.24.8.36 (thanks to your very helpful advice and links). Things seemed to be humming along and then bam. When I checked the settings on one of my computers yesterday, Norton’s Remote Management that I had disabled was enabled. I have LiveUpdate disabled, solely relying on Intelligent Updater, and haven’t used Window’s System Restore. Never had this problem before with the previous version. I did a clean install of N360 22.24.8.36.

This was a problem with Ver 24 on all three of my computers. After the second time, I took screenshots when I disabled Remote Management just to satisfy myself that I hadn’t lost my mind. Screenshots confirmed the problem. It was one of the many reasons I installed the previous version.

But it now looks questionable if 22.24.8.36 is a fix. The jury’s out. I’m keeping an eye on it and if it continues, I’ll have to ditch Norton altogether after using it for 25 years. There’s a lot of time left on my subscription but I’ll cut my losses. It’s a small price to pay to avoid these frustrations.

The Remote Management feature was disabled by default previously and is now enabled by default. First screenshot is from Norton’s current support page. Second screenshot is from N360 user’s manual for Ver 22, the early iterations of that version. Not sure when the policy changed since Norton fails to provide users with a simple, “What’s new in this version” digest. It’s almost as though this default setting gets baked in.

My experience with Norton is that Remote Management has been OFF out of the box. I check in the settings within my installed suite and as long as its enabled there things are the way they should be. Norton does from time to time get some small things out of whack when looking within my Norton online account. They clear themselves once whatever Norton is doing with their backend services is done.
22.24.8.36 is doing exactly what I want it to do. Zero issues since reverting. This is what I get when using the link within my UI:

SA

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@SoulAsylum After posting the message above, I checked the setting on one of my computers. (They’re all running 22.24.8.36.) It was again enabled even after disabling the day before. Got tired of it and decided to remove and reinstall N360 using a fresh download using the link you provided. Before I removed the app, I disabled Remote Management. Didn’t think that would make any difference but thought why not. What I ended up with after reinstall is this. (Note Remote Management option is now grayed out, so no way to enable it :interrobang:) All the other setting options appear to be functioning normally.

I guess one way to look at this is that it won’t get reenabled unbeknownst to me but this isn’t the way it’s supposed to work.

To satisfy my curiosity, I removed and reinstalled on another computer. Same version removed as installed. Remote management option is now grayed out on that computer as well.

Murphy’s Law, the removal and re-reinstall wiped out all of my custom traffic rules so have to add those rules manually…yet again. It also removed iTunes from my computer! So much for experimenting.

Remote Management used to be disabled by default but based on Norton’s support page, it’s now enabled by default, at least for v24. I’m not clear but I gather from your reply that Remote Management should be enabled in order for the Norton online account to work properly? I don’t require managing Norton remotely.

Yes. Remote management from the user perspective allows installations to synch with the licenses shown in your Norton account as well as in the main UI of your Norton products. They should all be the same. Sometimes a simple reboot of a device will clear the issue of RM being greyed out.

Edited: By default RM should be showing as enabled so the reinstall evidently remembered your last setting. Let us know if a restart clears the issue. Remote management also allows you to check online within your Norton account to see if a device has issues and, as long as that device is online you can click on its icon in your account and Norton will remotely run checks on it.

SA

Thread update: I have one laptop with version 24.xx Norton 360 Deluxe installed. As of this post I am allowing it to run untouched ( not changing any settings since OOB ). I want to see what the firewall blocks and other functions to gather screenshots for what the latest release is and/or isn’t under Window 11 23H2. Also I want to watch for any changes being made to my Norton account as happened before.

SA

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For those who have reverted. Are any of you seeing the download links missing on the Intelligent Updater site? Just something my side? Same results on Edge and Opera GX browsers.

SA

links r awol

Indeed so, thanks for confirming.

SA

I was just going to ask about this, same here as of today 1/29/2025. I am on v22 and have been manually updating the defs daily. Now what?

@luddy I just checked again, the URL’s for downloading the files are still absent. My view is that this site, specifically the one we are using updates Norton products. I’m betting there has to be a reasonable chance that a request to Broadcom was submitted to take down the links. UNTIL whom ever from Norton can refute that, its where things stand from where I sit. Bottom line, Norton possibly, doesn’t want anyone to revert and stay reverted. Norton, prove me wrong!!

SA

I might add that as far as I know intelligent update doesn’t update version 24.xx. I have to say that I haven’t tried it but now have 24.xx back on one laptop for testing.

SA

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I’ve been using the intelligent update package daily and all is does is update the defs. Product does not change.

SORRY MY POST ABOVE I MEANT TO SAY I AM ON V22 not V24!!!